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Podman Quadlets with Podman Desktop

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180 points teleforce | 1 comments | 14 Apr 25 17:16 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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orthoxerox ◴[14 Apr 25 20:20 UTC] No.43685880[source]▶
What is the killer feature that will make me want to switch from Docker Compose to Podman Quadlets?
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dharmab ◴[14 Apr 25 20:32 UTC] No.43685989[source]▶
I prefer quadlet for 2 reasons:

1. Podman is simpler than Docker. There is no long-running daemon. Rootless is default.

2. Quadlets can be managed as systemd services, giving me the same tools to manage and view logs for system daemons and containers.

Quadlets have been especially nice for bundling up an AI app I wrote as a cloud-init file, making it easy to deploy the hardware, software and models as one artifact.

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pydry ◴[14 Apr 25 21:46 UTC] No.43686670[source]▶
quadlets == systemd which requires root to run. this is NOT the same thing as "systemd cant run non root containers". OBVIOUSLY it can, just as docker can run non root containers.

Making systemd a necessary dependency to run > 1 container kinda negates many of the the nice advantages that podman has of not requiring root.

podman compose doesnt require root and would serve as a substitute but it's a very neglected piece of software.

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zacwest ◴[14 Apr 25 22:12 UTC] No.43686855[source]▶
You can do non-root systemd units, including Quadlets. See <https://docs.podman.io/en/latest/markdown/podman-systemd.uni...> under "Podman rootless unit search path."
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1. pydry ◴[14 Apr 25 22:26 UTC] No.43686960[source]▶
you can run docker containers without them requiring root too.

systemd itself is a root service. it shouldnt be a necessary dependency to run > 1 containers without root. somehow it is.