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alex1138 ◴[] No.43685044[source]
I think Whatsapp is the clearest possible case that can be made of any company? They violated the condition of not sharing user data with Facebook

Willing to listen to other opinions on other companies, but surely Whatsapp

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changoplatanero ◴[] No.43685346[source]
That was a voluntary pledge the company made to the users, right? It wasn't a legally binding commitment that there would never ever be any data sharing.
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onlyrealcuzzo ◴[] No.43685616[source]
Dear Users, in our Terms of Service, we tell you that we won't share your data.

Psych, it wasn't legally binding.

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1. fallingknife ◴[] No.43685787[source]
Correct. A promise is not legally binding unless there is some sort of payment in return. The exception is if you can prove you suffered monetary damages from relying on that promise, which is basically impossible for data sharing.
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2. lovich ◴[] No.43686087[source]
I can't sell my data to willing buyers for the same price anymore, because Meta illegally shared my data which reduced its value, and that's on top of the lost revenue I could have made selling my data to Meta if I was whatsapp only user.

Oh wait, I forgot those arguments only apply when companies are getting the government to go after people sharing files

3. JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.43686205[source]
> promise is not legally binding unless there is some sort of payment in return

If I recall correctly, I gave them a worldwide, perpetual license to some data.

> if you can prove you suffered monetary damages

This is a separate question (that of calculating damages) from that of whether there was a breach per se.

4. BobaFloutist ◴[] No.43687716[source]
Is it not at the very least false advertising?