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abdj8 ◴[] No.43678249[source]
Layoffs are a difficult thing for employees and their managers. I have seen people (one was a VP of Engineering) escorted out of the building, sent in a cab to home along with a security guard (this was in India), not allowed access to computer or talk with other employees. But, recently have had a very different experience. The current company I work for announced 30% layoffs. The list was made public within one hour of announcement. The CEO detailed the process of selecting people. The severance was very generous (3-6 months pay) along with health and other benefits. The impacted employees were allowed to keep the laptop and any other assets they took from the company. They even paid the same severance to contractors.

After the announcement, the laid off employees were given a few days in the company to allow them to say good byes. I love the CEOs comment on this ' I trusted them yesterday, I trust them today'. This was by far the kindest way of laying off employees imo. People were treated with dignity and respect.

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apexalpha ◴[] No.43678562[source]
Weird, as someone from Europe I've never experience anything else.

Layoffs here are always done in conjunction with the unions. People are moved to different jobs, helped with training etc...

Only in very critical jobs they'd walk you out immediately but then you still get the pay.

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asadalt ◴[] No.43678595[source]
that’s very business hostile tbh. I wouldn’t start a company there.
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ryandrake ◴[] No.43678624[source]
Treating people with dignity is “business hostile”… welcome to Hacker News comment section.
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scarface_74 ◴[] No.43680041[source]
I work for a paycheck. I can’t exchange “dignity” for goods and services. The guy got paid nice compensation for his labor.
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ryandrake ◴[] No.43683262[source]
Therefore, let's throw everything non-monetary under the bus because work should be purely transactional?
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scarface_74 ◴[] No.43683457[source]
What else should it be? Do you believe that your company is like “your family”? Your coworkers or especially your manager are “your friends”?

Why else do you go to work?

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1. ryandrake ◴[] No.43684526[source]
I don't believe my office is my family, but I expect to at least be treated with a baseline level of decency, civility, dignity, respect, and kindness, which are non-monetary and (by my reading of your post) unnecessary in your office full of Vulcans.

The fact that these things are seen as optional and unimportant explains a lot of what's happened to public discourse.

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2. scarface_74 ◴[] No.43685452[source]
Was it indecent for Google to lay someone off, remove all access and give him 16 weeks of severance + two additional weeks for each year of service?
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3. ryandrake ◴[] No.43685870[source]
I didn't say anything about Google.
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4. scarface_74 ◴[] No.43685894{3}[source]
The submitted article was about Google…