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myfonj ◴[] No.43682413[source]
> "We can expect the carbon pool stored in these forests to increase substantially,"

Interesting. I would have guessed that any kind of forests have quite limited cap how much carbon it could retain in dead wood, and that this cap will be pretty much fixed. Unless something will stop natural decay processes releasing the carbon back to the atmosphere I don't see how existing grown forest could increase its capacity, since I suppose it is already at its equilibrium.

(Unlike peatlands, where most of accumulated carbon remains underwater, so it presumably has much larger capacity.)

Simply said, without "burying or sinking wood mass" I see no easy way to prevent carbon from returning into the atmosphere. Basically if we need to take carbon from the atmosphere, we should ideally put it back from where we have been mining it for last couple of centuries.

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chrisfosterelli ◴[] No.43683163[source]
It takes a long time to reach that equilibrium and something can disrupt it along the way. Inevitably what happens is, as the amount of dead wood increases, so does the fire risk, and when it burns its all returned to the atmosphere. This is compounded by the fact that wildfire impact appears to be increasing significantly as the climate changes. Alternatively, humans cut it down because theres lots of large dense wood to grab.
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1. bluGill ◴[] No.43684325[source]
> when it burns its all returned to the atmosphere

Not always. Depending on fire some of it is turned into charcoal and then never returned.

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2. chrisfosterelli ◴[] No.43684614[source]
Agreed, "all" is an unfair word. Thanks. It's more accurate to say the majority of it is returned to the atmosphere. Less than 1% of burned fuel typically becomes organic carbon, but also not all of the biomass exposed will actually burn either. There's also trace amounts of other content and a lot of particulate matter (which one may or may not consider as carbon 'returned to the atmosphere' I suppose)
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3. bluGill ◴[] No.43685022[source]
1% add up if we can do it worldwide on a regular basis. (likely yearly, but you need the proper forester for each forest)
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4. chrisfosterelli ◴[] No.43685447{3}[source]
For that <1% left as carbon, comes >75% released as carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide, which needs to be recaptured. Tree capture by itself is already too inefficient -- you need to cover roughly the entire area of new mexico with trees to account for just one year of America's emissions. If you're only sustainably capturing 1% of that capture, we're nowhere near the order of magnitude necessary to be impactful on a global scale.

Further, even if we didn't face the issue of running out of land, we don't appear to be able to actually plant trees fast enough and well enough (many of the "millions of trees" planting projects, especially in developing nations, have had tree survival rates of under 10%)

Forests help and are part of the strategy, but fundamentally not moving the needle.