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abdj8 ◴[] No.43678249[source]
Layoffs are a difficult thing for employees and their managers. I have seen people (one was a VP of Engineering) escorted out of the building, sent in a cab to home along with a security guard (this was in India), not allowed access to computer or talk with other employees. But, recently have had a very different experience. The current company I work for announced 30% layoffs. The list was made public within one hour of announcement. The CEO detailed the process of selecting people. The severance was very generous (3-6 months pay) along with health and other benefits. The impacted employees were allowed to keep the laptop and any other assets they took from the company. They even paid the same severance to contractors.

After the announcement, the laid off employees were given a few days in the company to allow them to say good byes. I love the CEOs comment on this ' I trusted them yesterday, I trust them today'. This was by far the kindest way of laying off employees imo. People were treated with dignity and respect.

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apexalpha ◴[] No.43678562[source]
Weird, as someone from Europe I've never experience anything else.

Layoffs here are always done in conjunction with the unions. People are moved to different jobs, helped with training etc...

Only in very critical jobs they'd walk you out immediately but then you still get the pay.

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asadalt ◴[] No.43678595[source]
that’s very business hostile tbh. I wouldn’t start a company there.
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BlobberSnobber ◴[] No.43678620[source]
Always someone with a horrible opinion to give in this hellsite
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asadalt ◴[] No.43678740[source]
i have had to avoid hiring excellent candidate(s) from EU, just because they would become unflushable if it comes to that.
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Sonnigeszeug ◴[] No.43681965[source]
Thats just not true.

You don't sound like a big company ceo. If you have a good reason, even as a small company, and revenue / affordability is one, you can fire people.

You just need to be able to pay them for min. 3 month if thats your contract length and as a business owner you should know how to calculate.

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1. asadalt ◴[] No.43683522{3}[source]
vs. i can hire in canada/ukraine/india/pakistan/china for a more skilled person with no such bs restrictions.
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2. int_19h ◴[] No.43688275[source]
This doesn't make sense. If you hire them to work in local offices in those countries, they often have even more employee protections than Europe does. And if you bring them over to US, then it's the same law regardless of where they are originally from.
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3. asadalt ◴[] No.43690060[source]
why would i establish a local office in say paris if laws are so hostile towards startups.