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1114 points namukang | 9 comments | 11 Apr 25 20:19 UTC | HN request time: 0.415s | source | bottom
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abdj8 ◴[14 Apr 25 05:08 UTC] No.43678249[source]▶
Layoffs are a difficult thing for employees and their managers. I have seen people (one was a VP of Engineering) escorted out of the building, sent in a cab to home along with a security guard (this was in India), not allowed access to computer or talk with other employees. But, recently have had a very different experience. The current company I work for announced 30% layoffs. The list was made public within one hour of announcement. The CEO detailed the process of selecting people. The severance was very generous (3-6 months pay) along with health and other benefits. The impacted employees were allowed to keep the laptop and any other assets they took from the company. They even paid the same severance to contractors.

After the announcement, the laid off employees were given a few days in the company to allow them to say good byes. I love the CEOs comment on this ' I trusted them yesterday, I trust them today'. This was by far the kindest way of laying off employees imo. People were treated with dignity and respect.

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apexalpha ◴[14 Apr 25 06:20 UTC] No.43678562[source]▶
Weird, as someone from Europe I've never experience anything else.

Layoffs here are always done in conjunction with the unions. People are moved to different jobs, helped with training etc...

Only in very critical jobs they'd walk you out immediately but then you still get the pay.

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wiseowise ◴[14 Apr 25 08:06 UTC] No.43679117[source]▶
> Weird, as someone from Europe I've never experience anything else.

As someone from Europe, I’ve never experienced US salaries. Go figure.

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WhrRTheBaboons ◴[14 Apr 25 08:33 UTC] No.43679258[source]▶
what about US costs of living?
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weatherlite ◴[14 Apr 25 11:39 UTC] No.43680212[source]▶
West Europe is far from cheap. Housing, childcare etc is unaffordable for many in the middle class (and as dev, you are in most cases in Europe not a very high earner). Universal healthcare is the main (last) advantage Europe has over the U.S (and its a big one.)
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1. kjkjadksj ◴[14 Apr 25 16:40 UTC] No.43683197[source]▶
If you can afford housing and child care in the US you don’t care about healthcare because you are probably on a good employee plan.
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2. weatherlite ◴[14 Apr 25 17:02 UTC] No.43683425[source]▶
Jee sounds like a swell arrangement for 20% of the population ...
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3. astrange ◴[14 Apr 25 19:10 UTC] No.43684969[source]▶
More like 80%. Americans are simply richer than Europeans.
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4. int_19h ◴[15 Apr 25 01:51 UTC] No.43688244{3}[source]▶
80% of Americans are definitely not on what I'd consider a "good healthcare plan".
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5. signatoremo ◴[15 Apr 25 02:42 UTC] No.43688522{4}[source]▶
What is considered a "good healthcare plan"? Can you compare American insurance plans with Europe's ones?

92% of American had health insurance in 2023. Some people may have more than one insurance plans, thus the total number below is greater than 100%.

Of the subtypes of health insurance coverage, employment-based insurance was the most common, covering 53.7 percent of the population for some or all of the calendar year, followed by Medicaid (18.9 percent), Medicare (18.9 percent), direct-purchase coverage (10.2 percent), TRICARE (2.6 percent), and VA and CHAMPVA coverage (1.0 percent).

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/p60-28...

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6. int_19h ◴[15 Apr 25 03:33 UTC] No.43688756{5}[source]▶
Dental coverage, for starters. It's surprising how many plans are extremely skimpy on this.
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7. kjkjadksj ◴[15 Apr 25 17:08 UTC] No.43695653{6}[source]▶
Does anyone actually have good dental insurance? I think mine just does a small copay when i clean but even before I had dental out of pocket for that is only like $70 every 6 months if you bother listening to dentist (most don’t after mom stops taking them up to having a bad tooth issue later in life). Any actual work done on my teeth even with insurance has been out of pocket because in the eyes of the insurance company, having functional teeth is a cosmetic matter. Extraction? Hope you have $2500 to pay an american dentist for that. Or you can get the exact same procedure done from someone with the same training and experience for about $700 if you drive or fly to Tijuana for it.
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8. int_19h ◴[15 Apr 25 20:40 UTC] No.43698123{7}[source]▶
US Big Tech healthcare plans do. I don't recall last time I had to pay anything out of pocket for dental cleaning, for example, and it's covered 4 times / year. I had root canal and wisdom teeth extraction too, and while those had some copay, it was nowhere near the numbers you quote.
9. astrange ◴[15 Apr 25 22:18 UTC] No.43699117{6}[source]▶
Other countries don't do that either. IIRC the main reason for this is that dentistry was invented very recently and dentists are frequently just scammers who love unnecessary procedures.