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cj ◴[] No.43675640[source]
As our 30 person startup has grown, I made a conscious decision to stop pitching stock options as a primary component of compensation.

Which means the job offer still includes stock options, but during the job offer call we don’t talk up the future value of the stock options. We don’t create any expectation that the options will be worth anything.

Upside from a founder perspective is we end up giving away less equity than we otherwise might. Downside from a founder perspective is you need up increase cash compensation to close the gap in some cases, where you might otherwise talk up the value of options.

Main upside for the employee is they don’t need to worry too much about stock options intricacies because they don’t view them as a primary aspect of their compensation.

In my experience, almost everyone prefers cash over startup stock options. And from an employee perspective, it’s almost always the right decision to place very little value ($0) on the stock option component of your offer. The vast majority of cases stock options end up worthless.

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balalayuki ◴[] No.43680072[source]
I find it refreshing that you prioritize cash compensation over stock options. Many employees may feel more secure with a higher salary rather than relying on uncertain equity.
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1. stingraycharles ◴[] No.43680178[source]
The hiring managers / founders equating the stock options to real money is actually a red flag to me.

It’s super unlikely that a cash-out event ever happens for a startup, so until then, it’s just fake money to me.

And I say this having owned and exited my own 8-employee startup and continued to work for startups for the last 15 years. I work for cash, not imaginary future profits.