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Nissan's official mobile app for their LEAF electric car doesn't have a widget for quickly checking the car's battery charge status on your phone's home screen, so for a fun side project I decided to make my own using free tools like GitHub Actions, Appium, Tailscale, and Apple Shortcuts.
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jdminhbg ◴[] No.43678012[source]
Nobody wants to hear it in 2025 but this is one of the reasons Tesla is still a much better experience than most of the legacy car manufacturers. Car People like to think of apps as a weird Tech People affectation, but in actual day-to-day usage, they're invaluable.
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serial_dev ◴[] No.43678140[source]
> apps as a weird Tech People affectation

Maybe I never had the right luxury brand car, but I still see it as such.

If I want to have an app for my car, I’m my opinion that car failed me to provide with a simple, convenient driving experience.

I want to get in the car, check if it’s charged / filled up enough, check for errors (as a routine, but there shouldn’t be any), and drive.

If I need to change anything (AC, light, volume) I should be able to do it without having to take my eyes off the road.

What features do you like so much that you consider them “invaluable”?

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jdminhbg ◴[] No.43678170[source]
I would say the place where I differ is here:

> I want to get in the car,

I don't want to have to get in the car to do any of this. I'm able to get the climate control started in the car by saying out loud "Hey Siri, warm up car" (a shortcut I set up exposed by the Tesla app). The location is always up-to-date so if my wife is driving the kids in it, I can see their current location and ETA. I want to be able to open the door without unlocking the car manually. I want to be able to close the trunk remotely if I carried in a load of groceries. Etc.

None of this is some kind of alien technology that Tesla invented, but rather the vast majority of legacy car manufacturer apps are just total garbage piles that were outsourced to some low-bidder somewhere. It shouldn't be that hard.

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delusional ◴[] No.43678694[source]
Finally I get to ask this of a real person.

How important are these things for you? If the automatic trunk motor broke, how much would you be willing to pay to fix it? What is the value difference for you to be able to heat up the car from outside the car?

My questions point towards some variation of my central question: why does any of those things matter to you in a car? The primary purpose of a car is to get me places, everything else is optional. Is it because all the cars are equally sufficient for getting you places or so you actually value remotely controlling your car higher than the cars ability to drive you places?

For myself all of those gimmicks are just more complication that can break. I value a car that is fun to drive and with minimal abstraction. It sounds like you value maximal abstraction, and that's quite odd to me. I wish to understand your viewpoint.

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geoffpado ◴[] No.43679263[source]
(Not the person you’re replying to) I’ve never had a car with an automatic trunk motor, so I can’t answer that one, but back when I lived in the Midwest, if my ability to remote start the car to power climate control (particularly of the windshield defrost) stopped working, that definitely would have been in the “I’m willing to pay thousands to fix this” realm. In some cases, that would absolutely limit the ability for the car to get me places; you’re not going very far with a quarter inch of ice on the windshield.

In the summer, it gets closer to “gimmick” territory, but there are also totally times when interior surfaces of the car were too hot to touch, and that affects driving in its own right if you can’t grab the steering wheel.

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1. Gasp0de ◴[] No.43679499[source]
You know you can just scratch the ice off, right?
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2. Mashimo ◴[] No.43679548[source]
If something is broken to the point that the car can't heat up, yet it's cold that there is thick ice on the windshield I would think twice about driving. Even if you could remove the ice.
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3. Gasp0de ◴[] No.43679568[source]
No one said anything about anything being broken, just about the ability to remotely heat up the car before starting to drive. Having a heating and having a remote controlled heating that works with the car switched off are two separate things.
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4. Mashimo ◴[] No.43679703{3}[source]
> No one said anything about anything being broken,

Yes they did. Both the guy you asked and the one he responded to.

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5. Mountain_Skies ◴[] No.43679853[source]
Many cardiac events start that way.
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6. Gasp0de ◴[] No.43680158{4}[source]
Sry, what I meant to say was "No one spoke about the complete heating being broken. Heating is a basic requirement in a car imo. Remote-controllable, engine-off heating is not."
7. loloquwowndueo ◴[] No.43680193[source]
Dude if scraping ice off a windshield gives you a heart attack you have way bigger problems than your car not heating up remotely. Go see a doctor.
8. robertlagrant ◴[] No.43680918[source]
And they could just walk.
9. toss1 ◴[] No.43681353[source]
Huh?

Across decades, I've heard of many cardiac events from shoveling the driveway, but absolutely zero from scraping ice off a car windshield. This correlates to the vast difference in effort required by each action — scooping, lifting and moving tons of snow, vs scraping at a few ounces of ice (which is even easier if you let the car run a few minutes with the windshield defrost on).

Now, if we had car (not trucks setup for plowing) that could automatically clear the driveway, that would be a must-have feature in areas with winter climates...

10. BigGreenJorts ◴[] No.43681398[source]
The luxury of not having to stand in the cold reaching over the windshield scraping is worth so so so much. Add to that not having to sit in a cold car, waiting for it to warm up, is also worth a lot.