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NooneAtAll3 ◴[] No.43678094[source]
my take on this is that "2 week notice" should probably apply to businesses as well?
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grandempire ◴[] No.43678204[source]
For what? He’s probably getting fantastic severance so his time is best spent on the next thing. The employer isn’t going to get more work - it’s not wise or safe to let layed off individuals roam around the office.
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iainmerrick ◴[] No.43678592[source]
it’s not wise or safe to let layed off individuals roam around the office.

I don’t really buy this. I take it you’re worried about vengeful ex-employees abusing their access privileges to break stuff on the way out?

It seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Probably some people would feel vengeful if you do shitty things to them like removing all their access and firing them with no notice whatsoever.

Bad employees can already break stuff while they’re employed. They might feel more inclined to do stuff like that if there are chilling effects that build distrust in the work environment, like jump-scare layoffs.

Conversely, if people are getting “fantastic severance” and you treat them with dignity on the way out, aren’t both they and the people who remain more likely to feel more positively inclined?

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1. grandempire ◴[] No.43678795[source]
> I take it you’re worried about vengeful ex-employees abusing their access privileges to break stuff on the way out?

In extreme cases. But also just sowing discontent. Looking to grab value they think they are owed. Generally lots of people who are upset and probably feel mistreated and have very little to lose.

I actually think there is a small but real chance of violence as people like OP feel like their identity and way of life is threatened.

Have you been in a situation like this before?

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2. iainmerrick ◴[] No.43679239[source]
lots of people who are upset and probably feel mistreated [...] people like OP feel like their identity and way of life is threatened

But they feel like that because they're being ghosted by the company! Suddenly cut off, with no way to tie up loose ends and say goodbye to people on the way out. That's the mistreatment. If you don't mistreat them like that, maybe people won't feel mistreated or threatened.

I don't have tons of experience with layoffs. In the case where people in my team were directly affected, the company did not summarily cut off access overnight (they couldn't legally, as this was in the UK). It was completely fine and everybody was friendly and civil. It helps that the severance package was very generous, and admittedly the job market was good at the time so people would have been less worried about finding their next job.