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cj ◴[] No.43675640[source]
As our 30 person startup has grown, I made a conscious decision to stop pitching stock options as a primary component of compensation.

Which means the job offer still includes stock options, but during the job offer call we don’t talk up the future value of the stock options. We don’t create any expectation that the options will be worth anything.

Upside from a founder perspective is we end up giving away less equity than we otherwise might. Downside from a founder perspective is you need up increase cash compensation to close the gap in some cases, where you might otherwise talk up the value of options.

Main upside for the employee is they don’t need to worry too much about stock options intricacies because they don’t view them as a primary aspect of their compensation.

In my experience, almost everyone prefers cash over startup stock options. And from an employee perspective, it’s almost always the right decision to place very little value ($0) on the stock option component of your offer. The vast majority of cases stock options end up worthless.

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1. apwell23 ◴[] No.43678377[source]
> t’s almost always the right decision to place very little value ($0) on the stock option component of your offer

one of my coworkers at databricks say their TC is like 900k or something based on some BS imaginary options value. lol .

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2. disgruntledphd2 ◴[] No.43679478[source]
I mean, dbx will probably be worth something but unless he or she has been there 10+ years, it's unlikely to be life-changing.

And honestly, a company of that size giving huge option packages would make me suspicious (I'm a very suspicious person though ;) ).

3. ikiris ◴[] No.43686570[source]
People offering stock comp in an unlisted private are the moral equivalent of Jeff foxworthy’s “oh you’ll take a cheque? Hell I’ll pay the whole damn thing off then. I didn’t know you’d take a check I thought you wanted real money.”