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1. readthenotes1 ◴[] No.43678110[source]
"I'm told this comes as a shock to my managers and other Chrome team leaders. I'm told it's not based on merit"

If your manager is shocked by one of their team being laid off, the manager is probably next.

Of course the OP was told it wasn't based on merit, or any other arguable-in-court characteristic.

But it was. Someone decided Google was better off this way, or that OP was better off working somewhere else.

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2. silisili ◴[] No.43678175[source]
Managers often feign cluelessness because what else can they do? Tell you they submitted you for layoffs? Tell you they knew for weeks and said nothing? There's really no upside option here.

I have no doubt that sometimes managers really don't know, but I'd wager that most who say they didn't know probably did.

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3. acjohnson55 ◴[] No.43678525[source]
From my personal experience, front line managers are often not privy to layoffs.
4. DannyBee ◴[] No.43680727[source]
Eh - having had to do these myself at Google for large orgs over the past few years, i would not assume it was based on merit.

The cost disparities can be huge between team members and locations, and a lot of time it's being done to hit some EOY or mid-year budget number. They are also slowly trying to clean up location strategy.

So it's entirely possible it was based on cost and location, and not merit.

It would still be merit "under the covers" if everyone was the same cost/location, but they aren't.

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5. DannyBee ◴[] No.43680756[source]
I'd wager they didn't.

Lowest person who generally will know will usually be a senior director. Sometimes director. Sometimes VP.

Google is pretty careful about this. While it's true sometimes those people share stuff, it's definitely not en masse, and you can get yourself in significant trouble if you share it when you shouldn't, so it's less times than you think.

At most other places i worked it was different.

6. readthenotes1 ◴[] No.43694994[source]
Isn't it merit if you're not earning value/dollar?

If I got paid 5x someone else, shouldn't I be producing 5x?