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wyldfire ◴[] No.43676129[source]
On this April 13 in these United States, I can't help but think of the incredible inconvenience of how RSUs and shares sold seem to be calculated for the sake of income taxes. Please just add it up and send me the bill. I don't want to pay more than what's due. And I don't want to cheat. For whatever reason, the typical tax interview software guesses wrong or has insufficient inputs when I feed it info from employer + brokerage. So what remains feels like guesswork with liability on both ends.
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toast0 ◴[] No.43676287[source]
RSUs aren't really that bad, unless your employer does sell to cover in annoying ways. Net share withholding works out super simple, the shares that weren't withheld are at the brokerage with the correct basis, and the income and withholding are reported accurately on your w-2.

Options do get pretty nasty if you exercise and hold, when the fair market value is higher than the fair market value; because then you have to have an AMT return and a regular return and reconcile them.

ESPP with a discount was pretty bad the last time I had it; the brokerage said they were specifically required by IRS rules to report the wrong cost basis, and you had to adjust it when you sold, or you'd have the discount reported on your w-2 and again as a capital gain. Maybe that changed, capital gains reporting has changed over time.

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unethical_ban ◴[] No.43677207[source]
I wonder if you worked for a certain california-named company based in another california city... Your experience sounds a lot like mine.

They sell-to-cover when my stocks vest quarterly, which pisses me off because the stock constantly goes up and I wish I could keep them until the time my tax bill is due.

And, I have to manually report to the taxman all the money paid via those sell-to-covers, because even though eTrade sends me the transaction details each year, and they clearly tell the IRS how many stocks I got, they don't tell the IRS how much tax I already paid on it.

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1. scarface_74 ◴[] No.43677370[source]
When I worked for the company named after a rain forest, we had the choice of sell to cover, sell all or pay taxes without selling shares. I always chose to sell all. I would never have taken 25%-30% of my hypothetical cash compensation and bought one stock. Why would I keep my RSUs?

Now I work at a smaller company doing the same thing (cloud consulting) making the same amount all cash. I much prefer that over cash + RSUs.