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cj ◴[] No.43675640[source]
As our 30 person startup has grown, I made a conscious decision to stop pitching stock options as a primary component of compensation.

Which means the job offer still includes stock options, but during the job offer call we don’t talk up the future value of the stock options. We don’t create any expectation that the options will be worth anything.

Upside from a founder perspective is we end up giving away less equity than we otherwise might. Downside from a founder perspective is you need up increase cash compensation to close the gap in some cases, where you might otherwise talk up the value of options.

Main upside for the employee is they don’t need to worry too much about stock options intricacies because they don’t view them as a primary aspect of their compensation.

In my experience, almost everyone prefers cash over startup stock options. And from an employee perspective, it’s almost always the right decision to place very little value ($0) on the stock option component of your offer. The vast majority of cases stock options end up worthless.

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1. immibis ◴[] No.43676526[source]
Isn't that the point of equity compensation? I don't care about owning a percentage of the company - that just sounds complicated. I care about converting it into cash later. To compensate for the small chance that will be able to happen, you better make it seem like a lot more cash than the alternative cash compensation you're offering. The upside to you is that you don't have to pay that bundle of cash for a while, and you only have to pay it if you have it. And not you personally, but all investors indirectly.