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Google is winning on every AI front

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993 points vinhnx | 3 comments | 12 Apr 25 03:58 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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levocardia ◴[12 Apr 25 07:14 UTC] No.43662083[source]▶
Google is winning on every front except... marketing (Google has a chatbot?), trust (who knew the founding fathers were so diverse?), safety (where's the 2.5 Pro model card?), market share (fully one in ten internet users on the planet are weekly ChatGPT users), and, well, vibes (who's rooting for big G, exactly?).

But I will admit, Gemini Pro 2.5 is a legit good model. So, hats off for that.

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rzz3 ◴[12 Apr 25 09:39 UTC] No.43662886[source]▶
You really hit the nail on the head with trust. Knowing the power of these AIs and how absolutely little I trust Google, I’d never tell trust Gemini with the things I’ll say to ChatGPT.
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squigz ◴[12 Apr 25 10:19 UTC] No.43663078[source]▶
Why do you think OpenAI is more trustworthy than Google?
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Const-me ◴[13 Apr 25 07:17 UTC] No.43670752[source]▶
I agree with GP. The reason is simple, business model.

Google’s main source of income, by far, is selling ads. Not just any ads but highly targeted ones, which means global digital surveillance is an essential part of their business model.

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1. pb7 ◴[13 Apr 25 21:44 UTC] No.43676089{3}[source]▶
OpenAI doesn't have a business model. They sell dollars for 75 cents. If push comes to shove, they will sell your data to make ends meet. What about OpenAI screams stability and trust? Is it all their leadership leaving after countless cases of drama? Is it a CEO that oozes snake oil?
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2. Const-me ◴[14 Apr 25 00:13 UTC] No.43676887[source]▶
> OpenAI doesn't have a business model

It seems their revenue in 2024 exceeded $3B.

> they will sell your data to make ends meet

I’m not sure they can do that without breaching the contract. My employer pays for ChatGPT enterprise I use.

Another thing, OpenAI has very small amount of my data because they only have the stuff I entered to their web service. Google on the other hand tracks people across half of the internets, because half of the web pages contain ads served by google. Too bad antimonopoly regulators were asleep on their job when google acquired DoubleClick, AdMob, and the rest of them.

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3. 9rx ◴[14 Apr 25 13:46 UTC] No.43681226[source]▶
> It seems their revenue in 2024 exceeded $3B.

With a loss of $5B. A viable business model needs more than revenue. It also needs profit.

It is not unusual for a business with visions for profitability to accept losses for a while to get there, but OpenAI does not seem to have such vision. They seem to be working off the old tech model of "If we get enough users we'll eventually figure something out" – which every other time we've heard that has ended up meaning selling user data.

Maybe this time will be different, but every time we hear that...