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Keystone Pipeline spills estimated 3,500 barrels of crude oil

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35 points geox | 1 comments | 13 Apr 25 11:03 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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486sx33 ◴[13 Apr 25 14:54 UTC] No.43673230[source]▶
So about 1/3 of a swimming pool or 5 rail cars worth Not so bad really and safer than rail cars. 150,000 barrels a day gets sent by rail car. Pipelines are certainly the better option. I’d say catching this one and shutting it down was a success story. Too bad Biden killed keystone XL
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op00to ◴[13 Apr 25 15:13 UTC] No.43673372[source]▶
60 square miles of devastated aquifer. Estimates for initial cleaning and restoring would be $1 billion USD. That’s just the emergency response.

The costs of 30 years of pumping and treating and disposing groundwater minimum are not known. 100+ years of groundwater monitoring. The land will never be able to be restored to its initial condition.

Are we tired of winning so much yet?

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gruez ◴[13 Apr 25 15:16 UTC] No.43673387[source]▶
>60 square miles of devastated aquifer. Estimates for initial cleaning and restoring would be $1 billion USD. That’s just the emergency response.

source?

Moreover, all of those concerns exist with rail transport. It's not like they magically don't spill, or even spill less.

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op00to ◴[13 Apr 25 15:30 UTC] No.43673499[source]▶
EPA’s guidance used to state that one gallon of petroleum can contaminate up to one million gallons of water. Unfortunately, sourcing specific federal data or risk assessments reflecting this magnitude has become difficult, as crucial information underpinning these kinds of impact and cost projections appears to have been purged from public EPA websites over the last few months. I guess you’ll just have to deal with this when you hide information.
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1. gruez ◴[13 Apr 25 15:45 UTC] No.43673615{3}[source]▶
>EPA’s guidance used to state that one gallon of petroleum can contaminate up to one million gallons of water.

That doesn't answer my question. How did you get the "$1 billion USD" figure? It's unclear how you go from "one gallon of petroleum can contaminate up to one million gallons of water" to "Estimates for initial cleaning and restoring would be $1 billion USD".

Moreover, if that's "up to" amount, then surely it only applies to the worst case, like if you dumped the oil directly into a river/ocean? The picture in the article shows there's no source of water nearby. That's not to say that it can't affect groundwater or whatever, but blindly applying "one gallon of petroleum can contaminate up to one million gallons of water" makes no sense.