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CamperBob2 ◴[] No.43665080[source]
There is basically no way to make progress here, as far as I can see. If the insurance companies weren't running open-loop before, they certainly are now.
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candiddevmike ◴[] No.43665119[source]
Stop having employer provided insurance and make health insurance like buying car insurance ("free market") or do single payer ("communism"). The current status quo of insurance cartels is terrible for everyone involved--employers/employees get fleeced, providers get stiffed, and America gets more unhealthy.
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1. HumblyTossed ◴[] No.43665156[source]
This!! We will never have any form of HC reform as long as it's tied to employment.
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2. Spooky23 ◴[] No.43665272[source]
Yes. Health insurers are partially hired villains to take blame and ire. My employer has a multi-vendor plan that is mostly UHC. They even have specialist cancer care that will pay in full for just about everything, including travel and food. We have almost none of the issues that you hear about insurance nightmares.

That's because they negotiated and paid for such a plan.

My sister works for a similar large employer. They hired Cigna as the insurer/benefits administrator, and every interaction is a problem. Your two kids have an ear infection? Cool, we've determined that the second one is due to an auto accident. It's so bad that the company hired another company to argue with Cigna for you.

End of the day, the employer controls the purse, and the insurer is doing what the employer paid for. It's cheaper to hire another company to argue for the folks who have noticed problems than to pay for a level of service.