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Google is winning on every AI front

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993 points vinhnx | 3 comments | 12 Apr 25 03:58 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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levocardia ◴[12 Apr 25 07:14 UTC] No.43662083[source]▶
Google is winning on every front except... marketing (Google has a chatbot?), trust (who knew the founding fathers were so diverse?), safety (where's the 2.5 Pro model card?), market share (fully one in ten internet users on the planet are weekly ChatGPT users), and, well, vibes (who's rooting for big G, exactly?).

But I will admit, Gemini Pro 2.5 is a legit good model. So, hats off for that.

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rzz3 ◴[12 Apr 25 09:39 UTC] No.43662886[source]▶
You really hit the nail on the head with trust. Knowing the power of these AIs and how absolutely little I trust Google, I’d never tell trust Gemini with the things I’ll say to ChatGPT.
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squigz ◴[12 Apr 25 10:19 UTC] No.43663078[source]▶
Why do you think OpenAI is more trustworthy than Google?
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1. alternatex ◴[12 Apr 25 11:21 UTC] No.43663444[source]▶
Simply put Google has had more time to develop a terrible data hoarding reputation.
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2. marcusb ◴[12 Apr 25 11:30 UTC] No.43663495[source]▶
Isn't hoarding data for training purposes a key part of OpenAI's business model? I get that they don't have a reputation for selling that data (or access to it) yet, but, what happens if/when funding dries up?

I definitely don't trust Google -- fool me once, and all -- but to the extent I'm going to "trust" any business with my data, I'd like to see a proven business model that isn't based on monetizing my information and is likely to continue to work (e.g., Apple). OpenAI doesn't have that.

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3. alternatex ◴[12 Apr 25 11:52 UTC] No.43663613[source]▶
I don't think it's about trusting OpenAI necessarily, and definitely not a character like Sam Altman. It's more about Google having a proven record of being data obsessed. 99% of the money they make is from our data. Many other tech giants (Apple, Microsoft, etc) are also hard to trust, but at least they don't have their whole business model built on user data like Google and Meta. I can't blame anyone looking at OpenAI as a lesser evil.