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Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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1210 points jbegley | 1 comments | 11 Apr 25 16:24 UTC | HN request time: 0.23s | source
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googlryas ◴[11 Apr 25 18:20 UTC] No.43656769[source]▶
I'd like to see examples of actual posts that were taken down, rather than talk of the quantity, or who filed the reports.
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nashashmi ◴[11 Apr 25 19:29 UTC] No.43657555[source]▶
Every pro Palestinian protestor has experienced some form of awareness suppression and content removal. They have known this was a thing long before anyone else did.

Same thing happened during 9/11. Muslims saw suppression, bullying by the police and no one covered it. Then the tables turned on maga republicans after j6.

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dijit ◴[11 Apr 25 21:46 UTC] No.43658984[source]▶
I’m too stupid to navigate this topic in anything other than a crude and adolescent way, however I think it could be tricky for pro-palestinians because they can fall easily into the trap of using party slogans used by proscribed organisations.

My understanding of Hamas is that they are not considered a legitimate army, but if they were they would be guilty of an insurmountable number of war crimes (not unlike the IDF as many would say). Showing support for such things is beyond reasonable accepted discourse in my home country.

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cantrecallmypwd ◴[12 Apr 25 00:25 UTC] No.43660161[source]▶
Hamas isn't an army, it's the political party voted into office to administer Gaza. The problem is a subset of it, the Al-Qassam Brigades, that conduct asymmetric warfare. If that were shutdown and violence were disavowed, that would give them political respect and would cease giving Palestinians a bad name that holds them back from the atrocities committed against them from being recognized.
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throw310822 ◴[12 Apr 25 02:27 UTC] No.43660767[source]▶
> that would give them political respect, cease giving Palestinians a bad name that holds them back from the atrocities committed against them from being recognized

Yes the respect Fatah has. Look at the strong words of condemnation from world leaders for the daily pogroms Palestinians are subjected to in the West Bank. Look at the apartheid being enforced there, look at the demolished houses and villages, at the hundreds of illegal settlements, at the ethnic cleansing going on by the day.

Hamas is an excuse as good as any. In fact, given its overwhelming power and impunity, Israel makes and chooses its counterparts. If a Palestinian leader looks too good, they can kill him. If the protests are too peaceful, they can shoot a few people until they turn a bit violent. Hamas was promoted to weaken Fatah. And so on.

Hamas has proposed multiple times long term ceasefires (10 years) and has recognised the 1967 borders. All these proposals went completely ignored and mostly unmentioned in the Western media because that's not useful to Israel.

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1. nashashmi ◴[12 Apr 25 04:23 UTC] No.43661333[source]▶
The reason is as you say: If someone gets too popular or a leadership looks too promising, Israel shoots them or compromises them. Fatah is seen as corrupt and liberal group too conflicted to create any meaningful movements for Palestinians. Hamas is seen as more sincere movement and has stronger support. They are primarily a social movement with a military wing. And so they are a stronger threat to Israel than Fatah could be. Fatah for its part is compromisable and pliable where as Hamas is a conservative strict disciplined movement with no hope for Israel to corrupt them.