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1210 points jbegley | 3 comments | 11 Apr 25 16:24 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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herf ◴[11 Apr 25 21:19 UTC] No.43658726[source]▶
This is a really hard problem. Just consider that there are ~150 Muslims for every Jew worldwide. In the USA it's the reverse - 2:1 in favor of Jews, concentrated in particular geographic areas.

Imagine what it means to get ranking right here - if you let just 1% of the international population into the USA ranking system, you have a majority in favor of Palestine, and of course these ideas will spread in communities without a lot of people who can represent Jewish history. It's clear to me why this happens, but fixing in an algorithmic but fair way is also extremely difficult.

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wesselbindt ◴[11 Apr 25 21:30 UTC] No.43658829[source]▶
I think there's an erroneous implicit assumption in your reasoning, namely that to be Zionist is equivalent to be Jewish, and to be anti-zionist is to be Muslim (otherwise, why would you be talking about Jew:Muslim ratios). The fact of the matter is that not every Zionist* is Jewish (in fact, the vast majority of Zionists are christian), and vice versa not every Jewish person is a Zionist (Jewish voice for peace, the ultra orthodox, etc).

But even beyond that, I think engaging in censorship to hide an ethnic cleansing is an affront to humanity.

* Here, I'm taking Zionism to mean to be in support of the way Israel has formed and continued to form in the past 77 or so years. I am aware that there are many different interpretations of Zionism (to illustrate the breadth; Noam Chomsky considered himself a Zionist), but this particular interpretation is the one that is relevant to this conversation.

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sfx77[dead post] ◴[12 Apr 25 02:44 UTC] No.43660882[source]▶
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t0lo ◴[12 Apr 25 02:57 UTC] No.43660950[source]▶
The pager attack indiscruminantly attacked healthcare workers and killed a 9 year old girl and another child. It was the definition of untargeted, immoral and unprofessional. How does eliminating over 3% of a population, of which the majority are women and children amount to anything but deliberate extermination? There is nothing defensive about the IOF, or the army which calls palestinian citizens "human animals" and says "no child is too young to be a terorist"
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sfx77 ◴[12 Apr 25 03:28 UTC] No.43661091[source]▶
There is nothing indiscriminate about attacking Hizbollah pagers. There is however something indiscriminate about attacking civilians like on Oct 7. Targeting civilians as a matter of fact. Even if someone called them "animals" it's hardly equivalent to women being raped and having their breasts cut off, and being stabbed while being raped. That would be "treating" people like animals. Let's not forget who launched this whole war. Hamas.
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1. sfx77 ◴[12 Apr 25 04:00 UTC] No.43661238[source]▶
are you under the impression that 70 years of attacks on Israel are humanitarian? I'm sorry but rape is not ironic. The attacks on Oct 7 were absolutely where this conflict started, as there was a ceasefire or if you want to go further back. How come jews were attacked before zionism? Also Israel is the only party here seeking peace. What's the conviction rate of Hamas rapes? Zero. Also, unlike Hamas, the IDF does not use rape as a tool of war.
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2. t0lo ◴[12 Apr 25 04:11 UTC] No.43661295[source]▶
How can israel be the only party seeking peace when 90% of the population approved the wars expansion into lebanon, and 90% approved of the renewed offensive, and the use of stronger force in 2025 (israeli democratic/statistical surveys), when Israel broke the ceasefire this year and has taken more territory in the west bank, syria, and now gaza based on recent reports of the new goal of seizing the entirety of rafah. And don't lie about the sanctioning of rape as a tool of war in israel, it is also a society where 50% of don't believe marital rape is an issue, if you want to talk about immorality. https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-taps-chief-rabbi-who-once-...

There is only one colonialist expansionist force in the region.

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3. sfx77 ◴[12 Apr 25 04:26 UTC] No.43661349[source]▶
You are conflating the current conflict with the history of peace accords. Currently Israel wants to get rid of Hamas and rightfully so, after the October 7 attacks. I was referring to the multitude of peace attempts preceding this conflict where Israel conceded above 90% of what the Palestinian leadership wanted more than once, yet the Palestinian leadership refused. "Colonialist expansionist"? How many people speak Hebrew in the middle east? What expansion? If you want to look at an actual colonialist expansionist force you will look to Iran, who funds Hamas, Hizbollah, and the Houthis, they are currently colonizing Lebanon, Syria, and are using the Palestinians as pawns. Israel is a tiny country the size of New Jersey with less than 10 million people. Iran is 90 million people.