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    Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

    (petapixel.com)
    553 points bookofjoe | 16 comments | 11 Apr 25 14:01 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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    adzm ◴[11 Apr 25 15:22 UTC] No.43654878[source]▶
    Adobe is the one major company trying to be ethical with its AI training data and no one seems to even care. The AI features in Photoshop are the best around in my experience and come in handy constantly for all sorts of touchup work.

    Anyway I don't really think they deserve a lot of the hate they get, but I do hope this encourages development of viable alternatives to their products. Photoshop is still pretty much peerless. Illustrator has a ton of competitors catching up. After Effects and Premiere for video editing are getting overtaken by Davinci Resolve -- though for motion graphics it is still hard to beat After Effects. Though I do love that Adobe simply uses JavaScript for its expression and scripting language.

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    1. crest ◴[11 Apr 25 22:28 UTC] No.43659378[source]▶
    > Adobe is the one major company trying to be ethical with its AI training data and no one seems to even care.

    It's sad that it's funny that you think Adobe is motivated by ethical consideration.

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    2. ◴[11 Apr 25 22:32 UTC] No.43659406[source]▶
    3. ngcazz ◴[11 Apr 25 22:51 UTC] No.43659537[source]▶
    Or that generative AI is ethical at all
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    4. ahartmetz ◴[11 Apr 25 23:05 UTC] No.43659649[source]▶
    Probably want to look good to their customer base - artists
    5. esalman ◴[11 Apr 25 23:05 UTC] No.43659650[source]▶
    It's funny pg once compared hackers with painters, but given how people abuse crypto and generative AI, is seems hackers have more in common with thieves and robbers.
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    6. XorNot ◴[11 Apr 25 23:06 UTC] No.43659659[source]▶
    Where did the poster say they think Adobe is motivated by that? They said Adobe is operating that way.
    7. jfengel ◴[11 Apr 25 23:12 UTC] No.43659699[source]▶
    They don't have to be motivated by ethics. I'm fine with them grudgingly doing ethical things because their customer base is all artists, many of whom would look for an alternative product.
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    8. bolognafairy ◴[11 Apr 25 23:44 UTC] No.43659924[source]▶
    A strawman argument so you can condescendingly and snarkily lecture someone? I can see you were among those mouthing off at Adobe on Bluesky.
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    9. djeastm ◴[11 Apr 25 23:49 UTC] No.43659964[source]▶
    You are fine with it, of course, because you're reasonable. But OP's claim was that Adobe is "trying to be ethical with its AI training data and no one seems to even care" as if we're meant to give special consideration to a company for doing the only economically sensible thing when most of its customers are artists.
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    10. ambicapter ◴[12 Apr 25 00:02 UTC] No.43660044{3}[source]▶
    The great thing about loudly painting Adobe with the brush of "ethical AI training" (regardless of why they're doing it) is that the backlash will exponentially bigger if/when they do something that betrays that label. Potentially big enough to make them reverse course. It's not much, but it's something.
    11. labster ◴[12 Apr 25 01:12 UTC] No.43660403{3}[source]▶
    Hollywood was right all along then about hackers being outlaws, then. Hacker News must be the very heart of the Dark Web (where “dark” is short for late-stage capitalism).
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    12. jordanb ◴[12 Apr 25 01:20 UTC] No.43660446{4}[source]▶
    > hackers being outlaws

    That gives them too much credit. "Outlaws" are folk heroes. Robin Hood was an outlaw, Bonnie and Clyde were outlaws. Luigi is an outlaw.

    Nobody's going to be telling fables about the exploits of Sam Altman.

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    13. eloisius ◴[12 Apr 25 04:16 UTC] No.43661311[source]▶
    “Mouthing off” is always uttered by someone with an undeserved sense of authority over the other party, like a mall cop yelling at a teenager for skateboarding
    14. econ ◴[12 Apr 25 04:38 UTC] No.43661394{5}[source]▶
    AI could do it. Seems a good use of it.
    15. nearbuy ◴[12 Apr 25 15:17 UTC] No.43665118{3}[source]▶
    You should be. Otherwise, you're showing Adobe and other companies that ethical training is pointless, and isn't economically sensible after all.
    16. int_19h ◴[13 Apr 25 00:43 UTC] No.43669105[source]▶
    What exactly is unethical about generative AI, per se?