Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

While this may be part of the story, it's certainly not the full picture. We know that the CCP is actively manipulating the algorithm on Tiktok to further their agenda on multiple other geopolitical issues—something we have ample evidence for. I don't know if there is a smoking gun on this one topic in particular, but the CCP's goal has always been to divide the American audience; and we know that older Americans skew pro-Israel whilst younger Americans are more oriented towards being pro-Palestinian. If someone looked in the right places, they would more likely than not find evidence of algorithm manipulation to favor a Palestinian bend.

> something we have ample evidence for

Can you share some of that evidence? My impression from the SCOTUS case is that the government only alleged it could happen, not that it was happening. So I’m a bit surprised to see someone so confidently assert it is happening.

> more likely than not find evidence of algorithm manipulation

I think a lot of people have been looking. For years. Yet you admit there is no smoking gun. Perhaps if we look in the right place we will find Russell’s teapot orbiting Jupiter as well. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

I'd like to see that evidence too, hopefully for more than one instance/source.

IMO, it's been obvious that the danger seen in TikTok is that it's a propaganda tool out of USA's control. If it was really a national security danger, USA could simply ban it instead of fighting so hard to own it.

So, we have proof of a strong algorithm manipulation by Israel on the entire family of main US social media (those used by the older segment of the population); and yet you still manage to point your finger to a hypothetical, unproved manipulation of the algorithm on the competitors' social media to explain the difference in attitude between generations? But you have the answer here, there has been manipulation of the social media consumed by the older segment!

We find in mainstream media a pro Israel bend. We also find the same in US companies. Manipulation? Yes

> something we have ample evidence for.

Please show this "ample evidence" because it seems you (or "we" - whoever that is) have something the rest of the world doesn't.

Who is we?

Americans

Where’s the proof? Facebook agreeing to take down some contents that violates its policies is hardly proof of anything.

it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it were being manipulated, but we know for absolute certain facebooks sites and twitter are manipulated.

we should be looking to stop all manipulation, whether from a state or billionaires. this kind of manipulation is awful no matter what the source is.

i have a hard time understanding why so many are terrified of tiktok yet turn around and seem eager to suck from twitter or facebook’s firehose.

The proof is supplied by the article: "Multiple independent sources inside Meta confirmed the authenticity of the information provided by the whistleblowers. The data also show that Meta removed over 90,000 posts to comply with TDRs submitted by the Israeli government in an average of 30 seconds." 90k take-down requests in 18 months is quite a lot.

You don't have to look that hard—there have been several independent groups who have noted different ways in which the algorithm is skewed pro-CCP:

https://networkcontagion.us/wp-content/uploads/NCRI-Report_-...

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/social-psychology/artic...

Proof of takedowns is not proof of algorithm manipulation.

But it is proof of manipulation.

The study you linked doesn’t have a control group, which is a fairly fundamental oversight. In other words, it can’t answer the question of whether all negative political content is down ranked or just Chinese political content.

So what if they do this though? Big so what? Americans are allowed to read any journal and any news, even those explicitly owned and edited by foreign adversaries that they want. This is a tried and true first amendment right. And I get that forcing China to divest TikTok isn't legally an act against the 1st Amendment, but functionally it is. Why can't Americans see a CCP-biased view of Palestine if they want to? If I want to watch CCP propaganda all day, or Press TV, or Russia Today, that's my right as an American. Part of the reason there's interest to see that at all and 0 interest in watching a CCP revisionist history of the Korean War is because Israel can only bomb so many WCK aid workers, Red Cross aid workers, ambulances with the sirens on, in full video, etc. before people become curious about why this isn't a big deal for our govt.