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aucisson_masque ◴[] No.43656830[source]
I like to think we are in a better place than russia for instance with all its propaganda and jailed journalists, but then i see these kind of article come over and over....

Most of the people in the 'free world' goes on mainstream media, like facebook to get their news. These companies are enticed to 'suck up' to the government because at the end they are business, they need to be in good term with ruling class.

you end up with most media complying with the official story pushed by government and friends, and most people believing that because no one has the time to fact check everything.

One could argue that the difference with russia is that someone can actually look for real information, but even in russia people have access to vpn to bypass the censorship.

Another difference would be that you are allowed to express your opinion, whereas in russia you would be put to jail, that's true but only in a very limited way. Since everyone goes on mainstream media and they enforce the government narrative, you can't speak there. you are merely allowed to speak out in your little corner out of reach to anyone, and even then since most people believe the government propaganda, your arguments won't be heard at all.

The more i think about it, the less difference i see.

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1. rrrrrrrrrrrryan ◴[] No.43658886[source]
I don't think this is necessarily an issue of censorship so much as it is highlighting that Facebook is clearly a fucking news publisher and should be treated as such under the law.

It's time to revoke section 230 for any social media network that amplifies or buries content with a non-transparent process.

In this case it isn't even merely an algorithm designed by humans. They have LITERAL human editors choosing which stories to put on the front page, just like the NYT, and they should be held liable for the content on their platforms just like legacy media is.

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2. mkolodny ◴[] No.43659787[source]
Are you saying you think human editors handpick what goes on billions of people’s Facebook feeds?
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3. bolognafairy ◴[] No.43660023[source]
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4. mkolodny ◴[] No.43660055{3}[source]
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5. BriggyDwiggs42 ◴[] No.43667718[source]
Wait but if you perform an extremely complex method of algorithmic curation, at some point isn’t the human designing the algorithm becoming an editor?