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Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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1210 points jbegley | 14 comments | 11 Apr 25 16:24 UTC | HN request time: 0.993s | source | bottom
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janalsncm ◴[11 Apr 25 18:25 UTC] No.43656834[source]▶
So when the government pointed to the disproportionate support for Palestine on TikTok vs Instagram, it was actually because Instagram was suppressing it. It is ironic.

https://x.com/hawleymo/status/1717505662601609401

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nashashmi ◴[11 Apr 25 19:26 UTC] No.43657534[source]▶
Another reason why TikTok has to come under US ownership. How else are we going to censor things when they are under China’s (lack of) control?
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bradly ◴[11 Apr 25 21:01 UTC] No.43658512[source]▶
Exactly. China demands Apple Maps be ran on Chinese servers by Chinese workers. I would expect current U.S. administration to be frustrated with these imbalances as surveillance state measures increase. These imbalances were less important when there was less interest in information and truth suppression.
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bradlys ◴[11 Apr 25 21:10 UTC] No.43658612[source]▶
At least for all the surveillance the Chinese do - the standard of life is improving overall. We don't even get that shit here in the US. Our life just gets worse by practically every measure as the years go on and we're taken advantage of on top of it.
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1. cj ◴[11 Apr 25 21:16 UTC] No.43658701[source]▶
What benchmark are you using for standard of life?
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2. DaSHacka ◴[11 Apr 25 22:00 UTC] No.43659118[source]▶
Number of citizens reeducated, I presume.
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3. bradlys ◴[11 Apr 25 22:31 UTC] No.43659397[source]▶
At the very least, wages for the average citizen. It’s not perfect but at least there’s movement towards building something. What is the US building towards? Enriching billionaires?
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4. Viliam1234 ◴[11 Apr 25 22:31 UTC] No.43659402[source]▶
More organs harvested from political prisoners.
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5. bradlys ◴[11 Apr 25 22:35 UTC] No.43659431{3}[source]▶
Ah yes, the US known for putting people in prisons where we use techniques the Nazis developed as part of our “enhanced interrogation”.

USA is totally way better than China here!

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6. janalsncm ◴[11 Apr 25 22:51 UTC] No.43659542[source]▶
There’s probably not one single benchmark (and I won’t say that all of them are negative in the US) but we can just think generally about the things we’d like in a good life:

Life expectancy. Chronic disease rates. Suicide rates. Depression rates. Violent crime rates. Marriage rates. Home ownership rates. Education rates. Debt rates. Labor participation rates. Wealth inequity.

No one metric is a complete picture but together they tell a story. If America was a product and the above was on a dashboard, you would fire the CEO.

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7. econ ◴[11 Apr 25 23:11 UTC] No.43659694{4}[source]▶
Comparing apples to oranges works surprisingly well if they are rotten enough?

50th vs 70th

https://index.goodcountry.org/

Both the US and China score surprisingly bad on everything listed here.

I do prefer the way janalsncm described quality of life.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43659542

Is there an index for those some place?

8. nashashmi ◴[11 Apr 25 23:30 UTC] No.43659830[source]▶
Homeless population
9. fma ◴[12 Apr 25 03:40 UTC] No.43661141[source]▶
Anyone who has visited China 25 years ago, and visited today, wouldn't argue that quality of life has not improved as a whole.

As for America, it is very debatable.

FWIW, the dashboard idea...was on the 2020 Presidential Candidate. Andrew Yang's platform.

10. arbitrary_name ◴[12 Apr 25 03:50 UTC] No.43661185[source]▶
Years of salary to purchase home. Life expectancy. Obesity rates. Overall life satisfaction surveys. Loneliness rates. Suicide rate.

I could go on.

11. tempodox ◴[12 Apr 25 04:34 UTC] No.43661375[source]▶
“AI” avatars. Totally gonna make the world a better place.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43626707

12. corimaith ◴[12 Apr 25 13:10 UTC] No.43664070[source]▶
70% of these metrics are solved in China (or most places in Asia) through methods that most people in this thread would be vehemently against. You can put the mentally-ill back into sanatoriums, enforce quick and draconian response to petty crime, and pay an economic underclass a pittance to clean your streets if you wish.

Unfortunately for Americans, it's not the CEO at fault here actually, it's the middle class and left-leaning/progressive that are directly responsible for many of the problems here. The funny thing is that Republican Party being in complete power with Trump would be more similar to the CCP than the Democrats or Progressives. Suppressing dissenting voices like Pro-Palestine in order to force national homogenity is a big part of that.

And I say this as someone who supported Biden and Kamala, but these left-wingers or libertarians who are so vehemtly opposed to the US Gov but then simp for China are just being childishly incoherent.

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13. janalsncm ◴[12 Apr 25 19:37 UTC] No.43667330{3}[source]▶
> enforce quick and draconian response to petty crime

In the Bay Area the median response to petty crime is zero consequences for the criminal. This is because in practice criminals are not caught or punished.

If the cost of having laws enforced is that we need better surveillance (read: more security cameras) then guess what? We are already heavily surveilled.

14. aprilthird2021 ◴[14 Apr 25 04:55 UTC] No.43678173{3}[source]▶
Does authoritarianism and over policing cause their QoL to rise while ours is debatable? Their middle class is rising, ours is nearly dead. Their years of salary to purchase a home is decreasing, ours is almost a full lifetime. We have more people per capita in prison than they do. We have rising obesity rates. Rising chronic illness rates. We are now surveiling our own populations social media to find reasons to kick them out just like they do.

So please let me know how locking up more people and paying an economic underclass to clean our streets will help us achieve all those goals? Crime, I get it, but how is what you claimed going to solve our health and financial issues?