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Time for research to move to the EU. No point getting involved in the trouble that is the US these days with little tyrants everywhere.

Yup. The brain drain driven by the dumpster-fire Trump administration is going to be immense, and it won't be confined to just immigrants.

Calling them little tyrants is an understatement when the far right is repositioning America to be a major threat to the free world.

There's research funding in the EU?

Then the EU will have to make visas easier to get. Immigrants flocked to the USA for high wages and accessible visa or open enough border that they knew once they made it 100 miles in there was only 1% chance they get locked up to die in an immigration camp in central America.

The EU still has both those barriers, that many of their countries guard their work permits more fiercely than their own balls, and their wages are lower than places like Dubai with far easier to get work visa. If the EU isn't careful their cake will be stolen by authoritarian places like Singapore and Dubai that have comparatively free trade and easy work permits.

Every EU nation should be thinking about how to fast track and incentivize American immigration.

Belittling them is the only approach that will work. They have such a thin skin and fragile egos that making logical arguments, following procedure, or addressing this via well established "norms" just results in them getting their rocks off on telling you to F off. See [0] just as one example of many.

On the other hand, pointing out the lunacy of their actions, their hypocrisy, and malice through satire, parody and straight up bullying is the only way to truly break through the shell they've built around that fragile ego they're carrying around. Just my opinion.

[0] https://shop.gop.com/products/liberal-tears-mug

That would still have been pithy a couple months ago, but at this point it might not be long before the reverse of that question applies.

Satire gets under their skin real fast.

I am assuming that's pretty easy? Just apply to an EU university or job?

They're not bound by shame, so belittlement won't stop them either. Satire and parody is great, but it shouldn't downplay the risk given the stakes.

Historically, guns are the only approach that works.

>This is pure, undistilled bullshit.

Please don't turn HN into Reddit.

It's easier to get a work visa or employment based permanent residency in most EU countries than in the US. Partly because there are no quotas for higher-end work visas or permanent residency permits. And partly because the EU does not have a large number of illegal immigrants available for lower-end jobs.

Imagine that H-1Bs would be available in unlimited quantities any time of the year, as long as you meet the minimum requirements. And that the H-1B would be extended to a green card after a few years, assuming the authorities don't find anything too bad in the background checks. That's how it works in the EU.

European countries are generally more protectionist about working class jobs than professional jobs. If you have the education, skills, and experience, they assume that your presence would be good for the economy. And the citizens don't really complain. I guess a major reason is that the primary identities are national, while legal rights are EU-wide. If there are already hundreds of millions of foreigners who could apply for the same jobs, who cares about a small number of additional immigrants.

> European countries are generally more protectionist about working class jobs than professional jobs. If you have the education, skills, and experience, they assume that your presence would be good for the economy.

Yet somehow I've met barbers, janitors and vagrants who brag about tossing their passports on the way to the EU, while my Vietnamese neighbors (a practicing doctor couple in Vietnam), or American and Australian friends, found it extremely difficult to maintain their residency through legal routes, due to some non-issue. Some of them actually went to Dubai and Singapore, while the doctors ended up practicing in Switzerland instead.

People seeking asylum generally get work permits, but they are only ~15% of immigrants. Doctors and other legally protected professions are always difficult for an immigrant, as their professional organizations are suspicious of the standards of education in foreign countries.

I'm not saying that work-based immigration to the EU is easy. I'm only saying that the obstacles are not nearly as bad as in the US.

I wasn't trying to be pithy. My most recent understanding is that a lot of EU countries have been cutting their research funding and attacking their universities.

a.) You do realize that 15% is an insanely high proportion? For reference, the equivalent US number is 3.5% (excluding the current climate).

b.) Yes, it's insanely difficult, that's why the government should be making it EASIER for them to migrate, not flood with more paperwork. For instance, the UAE and Qatar have a Golden Visa programme that, upon verification of credentials by a govt-authorized background check company , grants a 10 year visa to doctors, high earners and uniquely skilled talents. Even nurses and pharmacists benefit from the programme and get the visa easily. The govt takes the effort to conduct the background check, instead of making them try to find employment first before coming to the country.

c.) My anecdotes were about clear and blatant, no regrets immigration FRAUD.