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snehk ◴[] No.43651672[source]
> Yet to many Europeans the idea that free expression is under threat seems odd. Europeans can say almost anything they want, both in theory and in practice.

A journalist in Germany was just sentenced to seven months for posting a meme of a politician where she holds up a sign saying "I hate free speech".

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/nancy-faeser-afd-...

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pjc50 ◴[] No.43651767[source]
This is going to be the whataboutery Olympics, isn't it.

That particular case seems egregious, especially the jail part (edit: oh, it's a suspended sentence, so zero jail time). On the other hand a world where news organizations can just photoshop any sign onto any politician and claim they support whatever doesn't seem great either.

But neither does using ICE to snatch people off the streets for making social media posts. (Someone will reply to this with some variant of "oh, but they're immigrants, they don't deserve the freedom to criticize the US", and then we're back at the whataboutery Olympics)

Perhaps it's only worth getting worked up about free speech when the speech is true, authentic and accurate?

(epilogue: this whole topic was at the top of HN for about a minute before it got flagged off, lol)

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1. spiderfarmer ◴[] No.43651809[source]
The law is pretty clear. If there was the smallest indication it was satire, he wouldn't have been sentenced.
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2. pjc50 ◴[] No.43651880[source]
Eh, "obviously badly manipulated image posted on twitter" would be a good indicator of satire, if obviously untrue drivel posted on Twitter hadn't just taken over the world.

UK equivalent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_joke_trial

> "Crap! Robin Hood airport is closed. You've got a week and a bit to get your shit together otherwise I'm blowing the airport sky high!!" (for the benefit of my MI5 handler, that is a quotation not a threat)

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3. spiderfarmer ◴[] No.43670476[source]
So he’s a victim of Poe’s law.