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The thing about Europe: it's the actual land of the free now

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160 points cruzcampo | 4 comments | 11 Apr 25 08:04 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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jbverschoor ◴[11 Apr 25 08:39 UTC] No.43651649[source]▶
Emmm no it's not. Believe it or not, the BRICS are
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pjc50 ◴[11 Apr 25 08:40 UTC] No.43651658[source]▶
The Russia and China that don't have free elections?
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rapsey ◴[11 Apr 25 08:43 UTC] No.43651682[source]▶
Europe and the US have no moral high ground when it comes to the justice system being used against political opponents.
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1. kubb ◴[11 Apr 25 08:50 UTC] No.43651757[source]▶
Anna Politkovskaya – Investigative journalist and critic of the Chechen war, shot in Moscow (2006).

Alexander Litvinenko – Ex-FSB officer poisoned with polonium in London (2006).

Stanislav Markelov & Anastasia Baburova – Human rights lawyer and journalist, shot in Moscow (2009).

Boris Nemtsov – Opposition leader, shot near the Kremlin (2015).

Denis Voronenkov – Former Russian MP, shot in Kyiv (2017).

Nikolai Andrushchenko – Journalist, beaten to death in St. Petersburg (2017).

Alexei Navalny – Opposition leader, died in prison after previous poisoning (2024).

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Maybe Europe isn't perfect, but the Russian morals are so low that no effort is requried to be better than them.

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2. wiseowise ◴[11 Apr 25 08:56 UTC] No.43651806[source]▶
Bah, that’s the real freedom, comrade. Freedom to kill opposition. How can you call yourself “free” if you can’t freely put polonium in your opponents chai?
3. rapsey ◴[11 Apr 25 09:02 UTC] No.43651852[source]▶
The end result is not much better. Only the candidates with the right positions get to hold power.
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4. kubb ◴[11 Apr 25 09:16 UTC] No.43651939[source]▶
If brutally murdering political opponents and terrorizing own population to uphold the regime doesn't matter to you then we have different values.