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dtnewman ◴[] No.43633873[source]
> A common question is: “how much are students using AI to cheat?” That’s hard to answer, especially as we don’t know the specific educational context where each of Claude’s responses is being used.

I built a popular product that helps teachers with this problem.

Yes, it's "hard to answer", but let's be honest... it's a very very widespread problem. I've talked to hundreds of teachers about this and it's a ubiquitous issue. For many students, it's literally "let me paste the assignment into ChatGPT and see what it spits out, change a few words and submit that".

I think the issue is that it's so tempting to lean on AI. I remember long nights struggling to implement complex data structures in CS classes. I'd work on something for an hour before I'd have an epiphany and figure out what was wrong. But that struggling was ultimately necessary to really learn the concepts. With AI, I can simply copy/paste my code and say "hey, what's wrong with this code?" and it'll often spot it (nevermind the fact that I can just ask ChatGPT "create a b-tree in C" and it'll do it). That's amazing in a sense, but also hurts the learning process.

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dyauspitr ◴[] No.43634343[source]
I’m pretty sure you can assume close to 100% of students are using LLMs to do their homework.
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ryandrake ◴[] No.43634452[source]
And if you're that one person out of 100,000 who is not using LLMs to do their homework, you are at a significant disadvantage on the grading curve.
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dysoco ◴[] No.43643547[source]
My university solves this quite easily.

There is no graded homework, the coursework is there only as a guide and practice for the exams.

So you can absolutely use LLMs to help you with the exercises or to help understand something, however if you blindly get answers you will only be fooling yourself as you won't be able to pass the exams.

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1. dyauspitr ◴[] No.43644990[source]
That’s how most schooling has already been in a lot of South and East Asia. If you don’t do your homework, you get punished in other ways, but it doesn’t have any impact on the overall grade, the grade solely depends on the final exam.