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    301 points todsacerdoti | 14 comments | 10 Apr 25 14:19 UTC | HN request time: 0.615s | source | bottom
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    hardaker ◴[10 Apr 25 14:58 UTC] No.43644486[source]▶
    You might check out .internal instead which was recently approved [1] for local use.

    [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.internal

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    1. GrumpyYoungMan ◴[10 Apr 25 15:24 UTC] No.43644836[source]▶
    The *.home.arpa domain in RFC 8375 has been approved for local use since 2018, which is long enough ago that most hardware and software currently in use should be able to handle it.
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    2. Mountain_Skies ◴[10 Apr 25 16:20 UTC] No.43645450[source]▶
    It's ugly and clunky, which is why after seven years it's had very little adoption. Home users aren't network engineers so these things actually do matter even if it seems silly in a technical sense.
    3. ◴[10 Apr 25 16:33 UTC] No.43645585[source]▶
    4. styfle ◴[10 Apr 25 16:37 UTC] No.43645624[source]▶
    Why use that over *.localhost which has been available since 1999 (introduced in RFC 2606)
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    5. bravetraveler ◴[10 Apr 25 16:40 UTC] No.43645669[source]▶
    From RFC 2606:

      The ".localhost" TLD has traditionally been statically defined in
  host DNS implementations as having an A record pointing to the
  loop back IP address and is reserved for such use
    The RFC 8375 suggestion (*.home.arpa) allows for more than a single host in the domain. If not in name/feeling, but the strictest readings [and adherence] too.
    6. johnmaguire ◴[10 Apr 25 18:22 UTC] No.43646707[source]▶
    RFC 8375 seems to have approved it specifically to use in Home Networking Control Protocol, though it also states "it is not intended that the use of 'home.arpa.' be restricted solely to networks where HNCP is deployed. Rather, 'home.arpa.' is intended to be the correct domain for uses like the one described for '.home' in [RFC7788]: local name service in residential homenets."

    The OpenWrt wiki on Homenet suggests the project might be dead: https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/zeroconfig/hncp_...

    Anyone familiar with HNCP? Are there any concerns of conflicts if HNCP becomes "a thing"? I have to say, .home.arpa doesn't exactly roll of the tongue like .internal. Some macOS users seem to have issues with .home.arpa too: https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1bu62do/homearpa_is_...

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    7. onre ◴[11 Apr 25 05:49 UTC] No.43650847[source]▶
    > I have to say, .home.arpa doesn't exactly roll of the tongue like .internal.

    In my native language (Finnish) it's even worse, or better, depending on personal preference - it translates directly to .mildew.lottery-ticket.

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    8. AndyMcConachie ◴[11 Apr 25 07:48 UTC] No.43651418[source]▶
    Check the errata for RFC 7788. .home being listed in it is a mistake. .home has never been designated for this purpose.

    home.arpa is for HNCP.

    Use .internal.

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    9. morjom ◴[11 Apr 25 08:09 UTC] No.43651506{3}[source]▶
    It would be more like .mold.ticket
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    10. onre ◴[11 Apr 25 08:44 UTC] No.43651688{4}[source]▶
    Thanks, I always mix up mold and mildew. However, "arpa" is specifically a lottery ticket, whereas there are tickets for concerts, tickets to ride, tickets in Jira etc...
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    11. fc417fc802 ◴[11 Apr 25 10:54 UTC] No.43652482{3}[source]▶
    I have been commandeering .home for the boxes on my LAN since forever. Why change it?

    If I were going to do a bunch of extra work messing with configs I'd be far more inclined to switch all my personal stuff over to GNS for security and privacy reasons.

    12. morjom ◴[11 Apr 25 11:09 UTC] No.43652570{5}[source]▶
    Arpa is used for all kinds of random chance things, not specifically for lottery. I feel like ticket would still be the equivalent but I guess that would be more transliteration and opinion than direct translation? Also my view for lottery may be skewed due to the Finnish lottery culture, and how lottery has more meanings in English. Sorry turned ranty.
    13. DrBazza ◴[11 Apr 25 11:41 UTC] No.43652735{5}[source]▶
    Arguably, Jira ‘has issues’.
    14. johnmaguire ◴[11 Apr 25 16:04 UTC] No.43655384{3}[source]▶
    I simply quoted RFC 8375. It specifically called out that while RFC 7788 mentions ".home" (quoted below), it wasn't reserved, which ".home.arpa" aims to fix. But while you say "home.arpa is for HNCP", I also quoted RFC 8375 stating it's available for other uses as well.

    > A network-wide zone is appended to all single labels or unqualified zones in order to qualify them. ".home" is the default; [...]