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    America Is Backsliding Toward Its Most Polluted Era

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    150 points pmags | 11 comments | 10 Apr 25 12:48 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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    RajT88 ◴[10 Apr 25 13:12 UTC] No.43643433[source]▶
    I've observed this weird cognitive dissonance with outdoorsmen, since I am quite fond of fishing.

    They tend to be a pretty hardcore MAGA bunch, but also don't like pollution because it messes up their sport. When you ask them about stuff like this (how can you support someone who pretty openly wants to mess up your pastime?), they get mad or change the subject.

    I get it - people are complicated and can care about many things at once. Nobody likes it when someone is seemingly poking at their belief systems. Still - you'd think it'd give them some kind of pause.

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    1. ilrwbwrkhv ◴[10 Apr 25 13:14 UTC] No.43643451[source]▶
    It's almost like people are complicated and when you are forced to choose between two parties you almost always go for the stronger male person
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    2. AnimalMuppet ◴[10 Apr 25 13:19 UTC] No.43643496[source]▶
    People are complicated and their behavior can be predicted by a single variable?
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    3. hackyhacky ◴[10 Apr 25 13:22 UTC] No.43643524[source]▶
    > It's almost like people are complicated and when you are forced to choose between two parties you almost always go for the stronger male person

    That seems like an unfair conclusion not rooted in empirical evidence. How do you explain the numerous democratically elected female heads of state? What does "strong" mean here? Do you think that current US leadership is "strong" or merely "loud"?

    4. fifilura ◴[10 Apr 25 13:24 UTC] No.43643542[source]▶
    I thought the GP comment was interesting. The hypothesis that if the decision becomes too complicated you just give up and fallback to the strong male.

    Like the reptile brain gets enabled if you loose the overview.

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    5. MonitorBird ◴[10 Apr 25 13:26 UTC] No.43643564[source]▶
    Behaviour in a closed system choosing between the alpha, sound familiar to any animal behaviour? Oh, but we are so much more than that. We aren't animals, we are developed people. Fascinating behaviour isn't it, Muppet.
    6. kahrl ◴[10 Apr 25 13:41 UTC] No.43643673[source]▶
    People are complicated.....they vote for the strongman. You realize how those two things you said are diametrically opposed???? Stupid.
    7. JohnFen ◴[10 Apr 25 13:45 UTC] No.43643719[source]▶
    I'm not sure that observations match this hypothesis, actually. But this

    > the stronger male person

    raises an interesting point (ignoring the "male" part) -- there isn't any real consensus on what attributes indicate "strength" (for instance, there are a lot of people who consider Trump strong, and a lot of people who equally consider him weak).

    So the hypothesis could be true, but not terribly enlightening.

    8. myvoiceismypass ◴[10 Apr 25 14:00 UTC] No.43643854[source]▶
    Speaking for yourself buddy.
    9. watwut ◴[10 Apr 25 14:20 UTC] No.43644061[source]▶
    That does not explain vote for Trump who is basically anti-masculine. He is basically walking stereotype of hysterical mind changing woman ... except in male shape.
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    10. dymk ◴[10 Apr 25 14:24 UTC] No.43644106[source]▶
    No, it still explains it. Society does not treat men and women doing or saying the same things the same way. Men are “assertive”, women are “bossy”.
    11. ilrwbwrkhv ◴[10 Apr 25 16:37 UTC] No.43645622{3}[source]▶
    This is what I meant. Thanks for clarifying.