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Photographs of 19th Century Japan

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1. damnitbuilds ◴[] No.43642321[source]
Hmm. If we want to preserve our diverse cultures, then we have to do more to defend our own cultures against immigrants imposing their cultures over them.

How you do that without being outright racist is the tough part.

And I say this as a migrated child of migrants.

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2. tjpnz ◴[] No.43642569[source]
Don't see much imposition in Japan and this year will mark ten years living here. People who can't or won't assimilate quickly find themselves living on another plane of existence and eventually leave. Language plays a big part with that too. If you can't speak Japanese or have someone with you who can there are countless everyday situations where you're SOL.
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3. damnitbuilds ◴[] No.43643066[source]
Yes.

But is that a good thing?

And if it is, should we be trying to promote it elsewhere where immigrant imposition does occur? And how?!

4. yannis ◴[] No.43643212[source]
How do immigrants impose their cultures on a host country? Can you give some examples? Historically populations mix by migration, wars, slavery, and trading networks. It is a process that cannot be stopped, maybe slowed down or accelerated. The disappointing aspect of it, is now this process has been hijacked by corporations. How did the West acquire a culture of coffee or coffee-shops? Now is McDonalds and Costa Cafes.
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5. triceratops ◴[] No.43643828[source]
> we have to do more to defend our own cultures

What does "defend" mean?

> against immigrants imposing their cultures

How can a minority "impose" its culture?

> How you do that without being outright racist

You can start by not saying "defending" and "imposing". There's no attack. "Defending" only means enjoying and promoting all the elements of your existing culture - language, music, entertainment, food, dress, architecture, religious and other traditional celebrations.

Immigrants like to be part of the mainstream so most of them will participate, unless made to feel unwelcome, usually bringing some of their own food to the party (always a plus).

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6. damnitbuilds ◴[] No.43654602[source]
You can start by discussing things and not quibbling over terms.

> What does "defend" mean?

Keep it from being replaced by another culture. I think we all understand that.

> How can a minority "impose" its culture?

By being locally dominant. By catering to people from their own community who prefer not to join the local culture. By providing cheaper/better/more profitable things to the locals than the local culture does.

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7. damnitbuilds ◴[] No.43654629[source]
> How did the West acquire a culture of coffee or coffee-shops?

For that matter, how did those coffee shops displace tea rooms?

8. triceratops ◴[] No.43672932{3}[source]
You're going to have to be more specific and maybe give some examples. I don't see a path from cheaper produce at some ethnic stores (the only part of your comment connected to reality) to total cultural replacement.