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dtnewman ◴[] No.43633873[source]
> A common question is: “how much are students using AI to cheat?” That’s hard to answer, especially as we don’t know the specific educational context where each of Claude’s responses is being used.

I built a popular product that helps teachers with this problem.

Yes, it's "hard to answer", but let's be honest... it's a very very widespread problem. I've talked to hundreds of teachers about this and it's a ubiquitous issue. For many students, it's literally "let me paste the assignment into ChatGPT and see what it spits out, change a few words and submit that".

I think the issue is that it's so tempting to lean on AI. I remember long nights struggling to implement complex data structures in CS classes. I'd work on something for an hour before I'd have an epiphany and figure out what was wrong. But that struggling was ultimately necessary to really learn the concepts. With AI, I can simply copy/paste my code and say "hey, what's wrong with this code?" and it'll often spot it (nevermind the fact that I can just ask ChatGPT "create a b-tree in C" and it'll do it). That's amazing in a sense, but also hurts the learning process.

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1. aj7 ◴[] No.43639096[source]
I’m a physicist. I can align and maximize ANY laser. I don’t even think when doing this task. Long hours of struggle, 50 years ago. Without struggle there is nothing. You can bullshit your way in. But you will be ejected.
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2. ketzo ◴[] No.43639145[source]
barely related to your point but “I can align and maximize ANY laser” is such an incredibly specific flex, I love it
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3. ramraj07 ◴[] No.43640514[source]
Especially because it's not a skill everyone gets just because they practice. I know because I tried for years lol.
4. marksbrown ◴[] No.43642486[source]
A master blacksmith can shoe a horse an' all. Laser alignment is also a solved problem with a machine. Just because something can be done by hand does not mean it has any intrinsic value.