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JSR_FDED ◴[] No.43631980[source]
It’s like people excited about the new datacenter being built in their town, think of all the jobs that will bring they cry. Nobody realizes it takes 6 people to run a datacenter.

Bringing “manufacturing back to the US” is a fool’s errand. The future of manufacturing is automation, not jobs.

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jacknews ◴[] No.43632390[source]
i don't understand the obsession with jobs anyway

people don't want a job, they want money and purpose

most jobs barely deliver either

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palmotea ◴[] No.43633279[source]
> i don't understand the obsession with jobs anyway

> people don't want a job, they want money and purpose

And society will not give them any of that without a job.

There, now you should understand "the obsession with jobs."

> most jobs barely deliver either

And no job delivers even less.

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jacknews ◴[] No.43634428[source]
then we should change society

that is my point

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palmotea ◴[] No.43637315[source]
> then we should change society

> that is my point

You're letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Realistically, you're not going to change society to give people "money and purpose" without a job. Fixating on an unrealistic goal takes focus away from more realistic ones.

I mean, for a least a century people have been proposing using productivity improvements to increase leisure time and distribute goods more equally. And in that time work demands have increased (e.g. going from one full-time worker in a typical household to two).

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1. int_19h ◴[] No.43638821[source]
Up until 1970s or so, productivity gains translated to increases in worker pay, so it certainly doesn't have to be like it is now.