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rayiner ◴[] No.43632822[source]
Americans need to get over their view of “Asia” as being about making shoes. When I was working in engineering in the early aughts, we mocked the Chinese as being able only to copy American technology. Today, China is competitive with or ahead of America in key technology areas, including nuclear power, AI, EVs, and batteries.

We need to anticipate a future where China is equal to America on a per capita basis, but four times bigger. Is that a world where “Designed by Apple in California, Made in China” still makes sense? What will be America’s competitive edge in that scenario?

What seems most likely to me in the future is that the US will find itself in the same position the UK is in now. Dominating finance and services won’t mean anything when both the IP and the physical products are being produced somewhere else.

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Herring ◴[] No.43635033[source]
> What will be America’s competitive edge in that scenario?

Comparative advantage means countries benefit from specializing in producing goods or services where they have the lowest relative opportunity cost - not necessarily where they're the best overall. Even if China focuses on technology (and this is far from decided), America can still thrive by specializing in other areas where its relative efficiency or unique capabilities are better.

Examples: Germany specializes in high-precision manufacturing, India does well with software development, IT services, and medicines, Australia exports minerals, natural resources, and agricultural products, etc. Everybody brings something to the table. The world economy cannot possibly get worse by adding 1B people doing top-level work.

> Ricardo's theory implies that comparative advantage rather than absolute advantage is responsible for much of international trade.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage

BTW these would have been great ECON 101 discussions to have before the election.

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harvey9 ◴[] No.43635890[source]
India does well on software development partly on a volume basis. Their top end developers often want to move abroad for career development and earning potential. I would not be surprised if potus put tariffs on H1Bs
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1. alfalfasprout ◴[] No.43638586[source]
Trump is on the record extensively as being very pro H1B (probably spurned on by Musk, Zuck, and Pichai). Because many of these workers can be overworked without complaint for lower compensation than American workers.

It's never been about protecting Americans...

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2. Workaccount2 ◴[] No.43644918[source]
It's about protecting blue collar workers. H1Bs damage the "coastal elite". Illegal immigrants are the threat to blue collar workers, and look at his stance on them.

It's impossible to not see that Trump is trying to bring back the 1950's rust belt all American factory family.