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rayiner ◴[] No.43632822[source]
Americans need to get over their view of “Asia” as being about making shoes. When I was working in engineering in the early aughts, we mocked the Chinese as being able only to copy American technology. Today, China is competitive with or ahead of America in key technology areas, including nuclear power, AI, EVs, and batteries.

We need to anticipate a future where China is equal to America on a per capita basis, but four times bigger. Is that a world where “Designed by Apple in California, Made in China” still makes sense? What will be America’s competitive edge in that scenario?

What seems most likely to me in the future is that the US will find itself in the same position the UK is in now. Dominating finance and services won’t mean anything when both the IP and the physical products are being produced somewhere else.

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bpt3 ◴[] No.43633029[source]
Their population is declining, and they are a long way away from parity with the west on a per-capita basis. I think China missed their opportunity.

Also, the UK hasn't dominated finance for a century and has never been dominant in services, so it doesn't seem like an apt comparison.

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kolanos ◴[] No.43635044[source]
> Their population is declining, ...

This can not be overstated. China is on the verge of the largest population collapse in human history.

By 2080 China's population will drop by 600 million. If that trend continues, by 2150 China's population will drop to 280 million.

Other asian countries such as South Korea and Japan are on a similar trajectory.

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gowld ◴[] No.43635347[source]
Why would that trend continue for 100 years? No reason to believe that.
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1. stackedinserter ◴[] No.43637046[source]
Because women are obligated to work 40 hours every week just to stay afloat. Unless you find a way for young educated family to live a decent life on a single husband's income, the trend will continue.
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2. Ancalagon ◴[] No.43637601[source]
And that wont happen to the US?
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3. stackedinserter ◴[] No.43638005[source]
What is "that" that "won't happen"?

US, Canada, Europe are demographically cooked too, but they (partially) solve this problem with immigration, that is not an option for China and the rest of Asia.

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4. Jensson ◴[] No.43640322{3}[source]
You think there will be zero policy changes in China over the next 125 years?
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5. stackedinserter ◴[] No.43677034{4}[source]
What's your point?