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specialp ◴[] No.43631863[source]
Another remote employment fraud that is much more prevalent is "Overemployment". You will get an applicant that is very skilled and hits the interview out of the park. But then when hired they are working many jobs and just trying to steal as many paychecks as they can until you fire them. They keep their first jobs resume clean and they all check out.

There is a Reddit community with over 400k members to show how prevalent this is [1]. There's lots of tactics like not allowing mentions on LinkedIn so they can't be publicly mentioned and seen by other unsuspecting employers, and just maintaining plausible deniability about why they can't make an on camera meeting. It is technically not illegal so it is very lucrative and hard to detect.

https://www.reddit.com/r/overemployed/top/

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ryandrake ◴[] No.43632465[source]
Funny how you can be a CEO of 4 companies and nobody bats an eye. You can be a retail worker holding down 3 minimum wage jobs to make ends meet and they say you are a hard worker, busting your ass for your family. But if you’re a white collar knowledge worker juggling two jobs, and still meeting both jobs’ expected performance goals, they call you a fraud and a thief and if you are open about it, they will fire you.
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1. 827a ◴[] No.43636804[source]
1. If you're upfront with it, and everyone involved has signed off on it, it isn't ethically wrong. Its not the overemployment that's the problem; its the deceit. I've seen this happen multiple times, including once myself. Communicate, set boundaries, be a professional. It isn't common to be fired for asking if working a second job is within the bounds of your first job's employment. On the other hand, if you're already working the second job, and you inform them about it; that's deceit.

2. I'm not aware of anyone who is the CEO of 4 companies; well, except Mr Musk, but don't you dare say for a second that no one is batting an eye at that. Most CEOs I know barely have enough time for one company; and obviously the performance of Musk's companies recently suggests he's in the same boat.

3. The original poster pretty clearly inferred that, in these situations, generally speaking these workers are not meeting performance expectations.