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rayiner ◴[] No.43632822[source]
Americans need to get over their view of “Asia” as being about making shoes. When I was working in engineering in the early aughts, we mocked the Chinese as being able only to copy American technology. Today, China is competitive with or ahead of America in key technology areas, including nuclear power, AI, EVs, and batteries.

We need to anticipate a future where China is equal to America on a per capita basis, but four times bigger. Is that a world where “Designed by Apple in California, Made in China” still makes sense? What will be America’s competitive edge in that scenario?

What seems most likely to me in the future is that the US will find itself in the same position the UK is in now. Dominating finance and services won’t mean anything when both the IP and the physical products are being produced somewhere else.

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bpt3 ◴[] No.43633029[source]
Their population is declining, and they are a long way away from parity with the west on a per-capita basis. I think China missed their opportunity.

Also, the UK hasn't dominated finance for a century and has never been dominant in services, so it doesn't seem like an apt comparison.

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Sonnigeszeug ◴[] No.43633954[source]
'declining' on which level?

China will surpass USA from a GDP Point of view in 2035.

China surpassed Germany as industry machines export in 2018.

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ebruchez ◴[] No.43634697{3}[source]
> China will surpass USA from a GDP Point of view in 2035.

Don't be so sure, this has become much less clear. For example, in this article: "The Centre for Economics and Business Research, which in 2020 predicted that China would overtake the U.S. by 2028, revised the crossover point two years later, to 2036. This month, the British consultancy said it will not happen in the next 15 years."

https://www.newsweek.com/2025/01/31/china-us-compete-biggest...

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thfuran ◴[] No.43634883{4}[source]
That was before the US decided to shoot itself in the face with economic policy.
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1. ebruchez ◴[] No.43635294{5}[source]
Yes, but this will likely hurt China as well. You can't assume only the US will be hurt by this.
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2. thfuran ◴[] No.43635964[source]
I don't. I'm saying all prior bets are off, though I do think US is going to be in the center of the nexus of pain, even if China is also hurt.
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3. Sonnigeszeug ◴[] No.43642317[source]
Right now USA is alianating everyone.

I'm in germany and i'm pissed. I will not go on holiday in USA and thinking proactivly how to boycot USA.

And i'm not even a company. A company wants stability, predictability and not chaos every 4 years. And this president is in office for only a few month.

Whatever strategy companys currently try to do is either sitting it out or starting to adjust. The adjustments might not just go back when USA is more stable again.