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zebomon ◴[] No.43634458[source]
The writing is irrelevant. Who cares if students don't learn how to do it? Or if the magazines are all mostly generated a decade from now? All of that labor spent on writing wasn't really making economic sense.

The problem with that take is this: it was never about the act of writing. What we lose, if we cut humans out of the equation, is writing as a proxy for what actually matters, which is thinking.

You'll soon notice the downsides of not-thinking (at scale!) if you have a generation of students who weren't taught to exercise their thinking by writing.

I hope that more people come around to this way of seeing things. It seems like a problem that will be much easier to mitigate than to fix after the fact.

A little self-promo: I'm building a tool to help students and writers create proof that they have written something the good ol fashioned way. Check it out at https://itypedmypaper.com and let me know what you think!

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ketzu ◴[] No.43634750[source]
> The writing is irrelevant.

In my opinion this is not true. Writing is a form of communicating ideas. Structuring and communicating ideas with others is really important, not just in written contexts, and it needs to be trained.

Maybe the way universities do it is not great, but writing in itself is important.

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1. zebomon ◴[] No.43634805[source]
Kindly read past the first line, friend :)
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2. ketzu ◴[] No.43666872[source]
I did. :)

(And I am aware of the irony in failing to communicate when mentioning that studying writing is important to be good at communication.) Maybe I should have also cited this part:

> writing as a proxy for what actually matters, which is thinking.

In my opinion, writing is important not (only) as a proxy for thinking, but as a direct form of communicating ideas. (Also applies to other forms of communication though.)