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dtnewman ◴[] No.43633873[source]
> A common question is: “how much are students using AI to cheat?” That’s hard to answer, especially as we don’t know the specific educational context where each of Claude’s responses is being used.

I built a popular product that helps teachers with this problem.

Yes, it's "hard to answer", but let's be honest... it's a very very widespread problem. I've talked to hundreds of teachers about this and it's a ubiquitous issue. For many students, it's literally "let me paste the assignment into ChatGPT and see what it spits out, change a few words and submit that".

I think the issue is that it's so tempting to lean on AI. I remember long nights struggling to implement complex data structures in CS classes. I'd work on something for an hour before I'd have an epiphany and figure out what was wrong. But that struggling was ultimately necessary to really learn the concepts. With AI, I can simply copy/paste my code and say "hey, what's wrong with this code?" and it'll often spot it (nevermind the fact that I can just ask ChatGPT "create a b-tree in C" and it'll do it). That's amazing in a sense, but also hurts the learning process.

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1. moltar ◴[] No.43634559[source]
I think it’s finally time to just stop the homework.

All school work must be done within the walls of the school.

What are we teaching our children? It’s ok to do more work at home?

There are countries that have no homework and they do just fine.

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2. jplusequalt ◴[] No.43635590[source]
Homework helps reinforce the material learned in class. It's already a problem where there is too much material to be fit into a single class period. Trying to cram in enough time for homework will only make that problem worse.
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3. moltar ◴[] No.43635928[source]
Can do the work the next day to reinforce.

As I said there are countries without homework and they seem to do ok. So it’s not mandatory by any means.

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4. jplusequalt ◴[] No.43636204{3}[source]
>Can do the work the next day to reinforce.

Keeping the curriculum fixed, there's already barely enough time to cover everything. Cutting the amount of lectures in half to make room for in-class homework time does not fix this fundamental problem.

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5. DontchaKnowit ◴[] No.43638738{4}[source]
Just make lecture times longer.
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6. umbra07 ◴[] No.43639619{5}[source]
students already don't pay attention in lecture:

* due to either learning/concentration issues * the fact that most lecturers are boring, dull, and unengaging * and oftentimes you can learn better from other sources

making lecture longer doesn't fix a single one of these issues. it just makes students learn even less.

7. oerdier ◴[] No.43641843[source]
There are such legal, cultural and economic differences between countries that no homework might work in one country but not at all in another.