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specialp ◴[] No.43631863[source]
Another remote employment fraud that is much more prevalent is "Overemployment". You will get an applicant that is very skilled and hits the interview out of the park. But then when hired they are working many jobs and just trying to steal as many paychecks as they can until you fire them. They keep their first jobs resume clean and they all check out.

There is a Reddit community with over 400k members to show how prevalent this is [1]. There's lots of tactics like not allowing mentions on LinkedIn so they can't be publicly mentioned and seen by other unsuspecting employers, and just maintaining plausible deniability about why they can't make an on camera meeting. It is technically not illegal so it is very lucrative and hard to detect.

https://www.reddit.com/r/overemployed/top/

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_fat_santa ◴[] No.43632149[source]
The term I've heard is "moonlighting" but same concept. As someone that's seen really smart guys at my company get sacked over this, my takeaway is you can do it but you gotta be real good to not get caught and don't be surprised if you're fired. There was one guy we had to fire over this and he had no remorse and took is super well. I could tell for him he understood this was part of the gig and probably had higher paying jobs to fallback on.
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jdlshore ◴[] No.43632447[source]
Moonlighting is working a second job at night (“by the light of the moon”). Overemployment is fraudulently charging two companies for the same hour of time.
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1. ordinaryradical ◴[] No.43632891[source]
Salaried positions don’t pay by the hour but by meeting benchmarks, job accountabilities, etc. so I’m not sure “fraudulently” belongs in that sentence.
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2. const_cast ◴[] No.43639363[source]
I concur. The only reason it doesn't feel this way is because companies have been abusing the spirit and intent of salary for a long time. They effectively make it about time, and then don't pay overtime because they're exempt. Salary is basically just hourly but with a sweeter deal for the employer.

So, from the employer's perspective, it feels like fraud. But they've effectively been defrauding you for the past 100 years, by making you work salary when your job isn't a salary job. So, it's even. Well... not really. Still absurdly skewed in the employer's favor of course, but a little more even.