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gibbitz ◴[] No.43631583[source]
AI generated recruits are a fiction. That's not to say there aren't fake or bait and switch recruits but this idea makes no sense.

Some background. I'm a senior developer who has performed hundreds of interviews and seen dozens of questionable recruits long before AI. Typically the scam is that an offshore consultancy wants to place some roles to collect wages. Many of these agencies are from collectivist cultures, so in the mind of the agency, they all work in our project. This may not be true, but the agency sees the position as theirs, not the recruit's. So they typically don't the issue with putting recruit A in front of the interviewer and then slotting recruit B in after the position is secured. I've seen this done with A talking while B moves their lips on camera. Now with chatGPT (and earlier to some degree with just Google Search) we just see applicants eyes focused on something they're reading when we ask questions. All of this is just as easy as an AI generated applicant (if not easier) and quite likely to get the recruit hired.

A lot of this narrative is pointing the finger at China, North Korea and Russia/Ukraine. The best candidates I've fielded have been Ukrainian, Russian and Chinese. These are countries well known for their tech sectors. North Korea has executed the largest crypto heists in history. These are not groups who need to fake it.

So who does this narrative serve? It serves the RTO CEOs. This makes CEOs scared to hire remote workers and lets the ones who demand it have a reason.

If anything the panic around AI should reinforce the need to think critically about these things.

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jollyllama ◴[] No.43632297[source]
Yes, AI is used a pretext for many things. RTO, cost cutting, you name it. But since the fact remains though that there are fake recruits for remote positions, if you strip out the AI rhetoric, it remains a legitimate argument in favor of RTO.
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1. scarface_74 ◴[] No.43632462[source]
It’s a legitimate argument to fly the person in for interviews.

I got my only remote BigTech job post Covid where the entire loop was remote. But it was customary before then to fly people into the office for the final interview.

Yes I realize “remote first” companies may not have an office. But even then, you could fly the interviewees to the location of the interviewer and use a hotel conference room.

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2. jollyllama ◴[] No.43632485[source]
Agreed but I suppose the problem then is you could have an interviewer hand off his or her duties to a third party. In theory, regular presence in an office is a mitigation against this.
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3. scarface_74 ◴[] No.43632634[source]
I’m not using this citation as a counterpoint to your comment and I realize this is a degenerate case. But it has happened in office…

https://www.cnn.com/2013/01/17/business/us-outsource-job-chi...

And as much as I hate to admit it, remote work has so many downsides for most companies, I see why many of them are in on RTO and hybrid.

Luckily in 2020 I pivoted to cloud consulting + app dev where it doesn’t make sense to be in the office since you will either be working with clients remotely or flying into their offices.

And even then AWS forced their ProServe consultants and SAs (full time employees) to be in an office when not on the client’s sites after I had already left. As does GCP.