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UK Effort to Keep Apple Encryption Fight Secret Is Blocked

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170 points flanked-evergl | 1 comments | 08 Apr 25 07:46 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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HPsquared ◴[08 Apr 25 09:33 UTC] No.43619828[source]▶
We've fallen quite far from the tradition of policing by consent as developed by Sir Robert Peel:

- Whether the police are effective is not measured on the number of arrests, but on the lack of crime.

- An effective authority figure knows trust and accountability are paramount. Hence, "The police are the public and the public are the police."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles

Edit: another choice quote from that article, from the Home Office itself in 2012:

"The Home Office defined the legitimacy of policing, in the eyes of the public, as based upon a general consensus of support that follows from transparency about their powers, their integrity in exercising those powers and their accountability for doing so."

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p0w3n3d ◴[08 Apr 25 10:06 UTC] No.43619989[source]▶
The problem is the people nowadays can be easily convinced that everything should be accessible, because

Ekhm

They have nothing to hide and...

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They will be more safe

Thus the arguments about fighting terrorism and paedophilia...

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johnisgood ◴[08 Apr 25 10:11 UTC] No.43620008[source]▶
And in reality it has nothing to do with terrorism, nor paedophilia.
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dkdbejwi383 ◴[08 Apr 25 10:21 UTC] No.43620063[source]▶
What does it have to do with in reality?
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1. eesmith ◴[09 Apr 25 06:41 UTC] No.43629481{3}[source]▶
The naive belief that having more data means the organization will be more effective at carrying out its goals.

Doesn't matter what data - the algorithms/AI will figure it out.

Doesn't matter how messy the data - the algorithms/AI will figure it out.

Post-9/11 governance is filled with the CYA view that if we collect enough data we can connect the dots before another event happens.

Privacy issues aren't important, as the organization's goals are good, with strong guards against corruption. (While DOGE accesses highly personal data entrusted to the IRS.)

While the world's data centers are smothered in unused data, collected because it's too hard to figure out what not to save and the Thiel and his malign ilk promise that their tools are good for us.