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bwb ◴[] No.43622606[source]
I am excited to see the next 20 years :)
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passwordoops ◴[] No.43623419[source]
For more breathless headlines touting a green transition as emissions continue to mysteriously increase at a record pace?
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throwawaymaths ◴[] No.43623446[source]
It's not a mystery. The US and EU have year on year been decreasing emissions for fifteen ish years now (yes, including during trump I, even if you account for the COVID drop).
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lm28469 ◴[] No.43623527[source]
That's a cool story you can tell your kids before bed but the reality is that when you include imports the US/EU emissions are stagnating or going up. It's easy not to pollute when you import most of your things from abroad.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/imported-or-exported-co-e...

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ZeroGravitas ◴[] No.43623675[source]
That graph measures whether they are importing or not.

So it's not the emissions that are stagnant, it's the per capita imports of emissions which are roughly flat.

They have a separate graph which reflects "consumption" based emissions:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/consumption-co2-per-capit...

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zahlman ◴[] No.43625119[source]
By "imports of emissions" here, are we referring to the emissions involved in the creation of the imported goods? Or just what exactly?
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1. throwawaymaths ◴[] No.43625434[source]
It's an estimate, but AIUI yes.