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UK Effort to Keep Apple Encryption Fight Secret Is Blocked

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170 points flanked-evergl | 1 comments | 08 Apr 25 07:46 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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HPsquared ◴[08 Apr 25 09:33 UTC] No.43619828[source]▶
We've fallen quite far from the tradition of policing by consent as developed by Sir Robert Peel:

- Whether the police are effective is not measured on the number of arrests, but on the lack of crime.

- An effective authority figure knows trust and accountability are paramount. Hence, "The police are the public and the public are the police."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles

Edit: another choice quote from that article, from the Home Office itself in 2012:

"The Home Office defined the legitimacy of policing, in the eyes of the public, as based upon a general consensus of support that follows from transparency about their powers, their integrity in exercising those powers and their accountability for doing so."

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p0w3n3d ◴[08 Apr 25 10:06 UTC] No.43619989[source]▶
The problem is the people nowadays can be easily convinced that everything should be accessible, because

Ekhm

They have nothing to hide and...

Ekhm

They will be more safe

Thus the arguments about fighting terrorism and paedophilia...

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johnisgood ◴[08 Apr 25 10:11 UTC] No.43620008[source]▶
And in reality it has nothing to do with terrorism, nor paedophilia.
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dkdbejwi383 ◴[08 Apr 25 10:21 UTC] No.43620063[source]▶
What does it have to do with in reality?
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Gud ◴[08 Apr 25 10:22 UTC] No.43620069[source]▶
Obedient workers.
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dkdbejwi383 ◴[08 Apr 25 10:36 UTC] No.43620142[source]▶
Can you expand on that? I don’t follow, sorry
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1. cjbgkagh ◴[08 Apr 25 12:45 UTC] No.43621088[source]▶
Many government policies around multiculturalism and immigration have gotten to a stage where criticism against it can be seen as incitement to violence / disturbing the peace. Protected class communities have a hecklers veto whereby responding to even mild criticism with violence they’re able to send those who criticize them to jail, often more so than the jail term for violence. States care more about criticism than the violence.

This has an effect of making criticism of government policy a heavily punished crime. A situation the government has fostered.

Multiculturalism is incompatible with free speech and since multiculturalism is government policy free speech has to be sacrificed.

It’s a slippery slope and it’s been going on for some time so very little can be done about it.