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amiga386 ◴[] No.43619870[source]
Users want their secrets to be secret.

Apple wants its users' secrets to be secret.

The UK wants the fact it wants Apple to reveal anyone's secrets to be secret.

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HPsquared ◴[] No.43619903[source]
There must be a healthy middle ground between mass untouchable criminal communication networks on the one hand, and full panopticon 24x7 for every civilian on the other. Or I don't know, maybe there isn't. But at least the debate should be public.
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1. uniq7 ◴[] No.43619961[source]
Through history and experience from other countries, there is a lot of data that let us correlate criminality with other variables that people would let the Government control (quality of children education, access to jobs, housing, healthcare, safety networks, punishments to deter crimes, etc).

The fact that the Government prefers to spy everyone with the excuse of stopping crime instead of improving any of those variables (specially housing) makes me think that the people in charge are either stupid in the best case or criminals in the worst.