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amiga386 ◴[] No.43619870[source]
Users want their secrets to be secret.

Apple wants its users' secrets to be secret.

The UK wants the fact it wants Apple to reveal anyone's secrets to be secret.

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HPsquared ◴[] No.43619903[source]
There must be a healthy middle ground between mass untouchable criminal communication networks on the one hand, and full panopticon 24x7 for every civilian on the other. Or I don't know, maybe there isn't. But at least the debate should be public.
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1. AndrewDucker ◴[] No.43619926[source]
Either there are ways of intercepting information or there aren't. If there aren't then even criminals can keep their conversations secret. If there are then even criminals can intercept your conversations.