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evanjrowley ◴[] No.43614920[source]
So a journalist at Mother Jones is shocked, but did anyone here on HN not predict this strategy long before Trump got his 2nd term?
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notfed ◴[] No.43615086[source]
Sadly this prediction could have been generalized to the US executive branch regardless of the most recent election. It's more of the same from what we've seen in the past, Democrat and Republican leader alike.
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1. mingus88 ◴[] No.43615126[source]
Far be it from me to interrupt your both-sides deflection but I’d like to ask you to cite any report in the recent past when democrats have called for the arrest or use of violence and/or the military against protesters
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2. just_steve_h ◴[] No.43615232[source]
Perhaps you slept through the year leading up to the 2024 election, when Democrats sent riot police into student protests? They arrested thousands, and were plenty violent. Democratic president & governor & mayor (NYC and LA and Boston, for example).

Or perhaps you missed the Occupy movement which was violently disrupted on a national scale with coordinated raids across the country, organized through the “Fusion Centers” (FBI + DHS + State & Local law enforcement)?

Anyhow, my point here is that organized violence against leftist protestors is a fully bipartisan policy, and has been for more than 100 years.

3. kelipso ◴[] No.43615242[source]
You just forgot the Palestine protests or what.
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4. generalizations ◴[] No.43615250[source]
The trick is to call them something else. The January 6 protesters come to mind, but since they actually threatened the lawmakers - not just random proles - they aren't called "protesters". Conversely, make sure the BLM folks are definitely not called rioters, even if you have to call them "fiery but peaceful" protestors.
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5. malcolmgreaves ◴[] No.43615621[source]
They didn’t call for mad violence against protestors. They didn’t call for arresting protestors.

I imagine you won’t admit you have no evidence based in reality.

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6. malcolmgreaves ◴[] No.43615627[source]
Insurrectionists are not protestors.
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7. generalizations ◴[] No.43615644{3}[source]
> The trick is to call them something else

If it's politically expedient, that is. For one thing, they were far less violent than the BLM protesters. Yet one group is called 'protestors' and the other 'insurrectionists'.

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8. orwin ◴[] No.43617093{4}[source]
Didn't they kill one police officer? Or was it two? In a single afternoon?

Please tell me how many police officer did the BLM protesters killed per day, just to confirm how violent they were.

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9. generalizations ◴[] No.43617288{5}[source]
If you go look it up, it was zero, IIRC. Don't believe everything you're told.

How many arsonists were among the j6 folks?

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10. jauntywundrkind ◴[] No.43617543{3}[source]
And they didn't have Dem backed companies surveilling and trying to track protestors.
11. _DeadFred_ ◴[] No.43618735{4}[source]
They physically broke into our nation's Capital. That is not a 'politically expedient' statement. That is not 'protesting'. They interrupted our Government and government activity had to be postponed. THEY STOPPED THE GOVERNMENT, the election process, and by extension the peaceful transfer of how that had never be prevented before in the nations history. That is not protesting no matter how many air quotes you put around it.

And after they broke in, for this first time in history the traitorous, racist, loser Confederate flag was flown inside out capital building.

12. raxxorraxor ◴[] No.43619203[source]
Are you serious? Surveillance has been on the agenda at least for 25 years. Maybe Trump is president because his opposition cannot match his very, very smart mental capacities as they tumble to make such topics some bipartisan issue.

Perhaps you can argue that Trumps ideas are worse, but that never creates a smart argument.

13. kelipso ◴[] No.43624082{3}[source]
They definitely called for arresting protesters. People don’t forget that easily lol.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4637548-democrats-split-...

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14. malcolmgreaves ◴[] No.43624797{6}[source]
You’re in too deep into the fake conspiracy theories and lies. Please seek professional help and come back to reality
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15. malcolmgreaves ◴[] No.43624828{4}[source]
No. You’re being willfully ignorant at this point.

There’s a difference between convicting people of crimes and arresting protestors because one side doesn’t like what they’re saying.

The republicans are literally kidnapping people who have committed no crimes but are exercising their first amendment right to free speech, writing and publishing their political views. These people are now being held in inhumane conditions. This is stage one of torture: dehumanize.

And you’re dodging the more pressing and serious issues: republicans in government are advocating of using violence against protestors they don’t like. You’re avoiding this because deep down you know you have no logical nor ethical standing.

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16. kelipso ◴[] No.43625522{5}[source]
You need to stop accusing me of made up things derived from your paranoid delusions lol. Democrats wanted the protesters in jail and they put them in jail be they didn’t like what the protesters said. It really was that simple, so stop making things up from your fantasies so you can imagine this is something new and special or try to “win” some internet argument by accusing people of things that exist only in your imagination.
17. generalizations ◴[] No.43626155{7}[source]
Buddy I'm using factcheck.org [1]. But keep going with the intellectual condescension - long as you convince yourself that people who disagree are wrong and need help and idiots, you'll never have to leave your comfy little bubble. But you will become increasingly detached from reality.

[1] https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-...