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rvnx ◴[] No.43603567[source]
Trying to meddle and interfere with foreign elections wasn't Elon Musk's smartest idea
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NotGMan ◴[] No.43603726[source]
EU is doing this all the time to its own member states...
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1. Calwestjobs ◴[] No.43603810[source]
Czechs vote guy who does NAZI salutes on the street, to european parliament, Slovaks voted guy who is lobbying for usage of russian oil and taking bribe of 1% of price of russian oil which slovak state company buys...

So we do not need more conspiracy theories about meddling, we need to address and deal with real things already toxic for community.

Yes as you guessed nothing in here has any relation to ExTwitter nor Youtube nor fakebook. /s

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2. arandomusername ◴[] No.43604403[source]
Do you mean russian gas instead of oil?

Worth nothing that russian gas is a lot cheaper than any alternative. Slovakia is not a rich country. It could be that people just want to pay less for their energy.

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3. Calwestjobs ◴[] No.43619212[source]
gas and oil pipelines from russia thru ukraine are slovak state property.

russian gas is cheaper is russian propagandist lie. or it is true but in sense that there are bribes prized in.

slovakia pays market price but percentage of that price is diverted to bank accounts in russia and turkey (or atleast was ,there is chatter that they moved some money to east asia because of sanctions) as a payment for slovak gov signing deal with russia until i think 2030 or 2035 or something like that. for example similar contract with ukraine was signed only for 10 years (i have no info about bribes in UA). and it ended last december...

russia is paying hungary and slovak governments to transport fossils, so governments do not have reason to do reverse adria flow, bring fossils from other pipelines etc etc.

( irony is that someone hacked czech premier Fialas ExTwitter account instead of Filip Turek nazi .... account )

as i understood it, LCOE for battery + renewables is on par with nuclear for years, and similar price of gas peaking... + EU is doing all sorts of programs to lower energy needs of buildings...

"funny" thing is that future chinese battery manufacturing capacity IN EUROPE will displace russian gas in long term...

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4. arandomusername ◴[] No.43624645{3}[source]
> russian gas is cheaper is russian propagandist lie.

That's not true. It is cheaper. Logically it makes absolute sense, as it is cheaper to transport through a pipeline than tankers and there is no other pipeline in Europe that can cover what russia used to provide. That's why countries that import Russian gas have significantly cheaper household natural gas prices [1].

I'm not going to get into the bribe tangent. As long as russian gas is cheaper, that will be the biggest reason to buy it IMO.

Switching energy source takes years and huge investment. The big problem is that a lot of households rely on natural natural gas for heating, and a lot of them can't afford to switch.

1: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...