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1. grey-area ◴[] No.43603771[source]
Interesting news given the recently announced US trade war vs the entire world, with special treatment for rivals like the EU and China.

It seems the EU have decided the most effective response to an oligarchy declaring trade war is to target the leading oligarchs with government influence. Expect more actions which enrage Trump and Musk and an escalation from both sides. This won’t end well for either side IMO.

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2. danieldk ◴[] No.43603991[source]
with special treatment for rivals like the EU

Until three months ago we were also strong allies. But there has been nothing but contempt from the current administration towards the EU and Europe.

That said, the EU usually prepares these cases very meticulously. As the article says, they already started in 2023 and issued a preliminary ruling last year. Also, it seems like the issue can still be settled without a fine:

The European Union and X could still reach a settlement if the company agrees to changes that satisfy regulators’ concerns, the officials said.

That said, it's likely that there have been many deliberations about this and other fines (e.g. Apple) and there were rumors that the EU was going to play softer to appease Trump. But I guess Vance's speech at the NATO conference, the disdain for Europe in the leaked Signal chats (which was completely misplaced because Houthis are attacking vessels as a revenge for Israel's attack on Palestine), and then the high tariffs on EU exports (where Trump only takes into account goods and not services) made the EU decide to show teeth instead.

IMO in the end it's the best thing to do, worst thing is to appear weak with these bullies (apparently Trump called Jean-Claude Juncker 'a brutal killer').

3. Detrytus ◴[] No.43604044[source]
What influence? Musk is already being kicked out of the government.
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4. rsynnott ◴[] No.43604951[source]
> This won’t end well for either side IMO.

Going after Trump-world oligarchs, if that is what’s happening here, is arguably a more viable approach for the EU than the straight-up tariff-mirroring one China is taking.

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5. grey-area ◴[] No.43605471[source]
There is no winning move here unfortunately.

Everyone is going to suffer, some more than others. If we’re lucky the trade war won’t lead to real war with someone like china.

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6. grey-area ◴[] No.43607900[source]
Don’t believe the stories they tell, look at what they do instead.
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7. rsynnott ◴[] No.43611674{3}[source]
I mean, given the baseline that the EU _has_ to retaliate (IMO the game theory of trade wars dictates this; the EU really can't _not_ retaliate), targeted retaliation against Trump's people, and potentially targeted retaliation against Trump-voting regions (the EU did this in Trump's first attempt at tariff increases a few years back), is likely less damaging than China's approach for the EU (though certainly also lacking in the same degree of shock and awe).
8. Detrytus ◴[] No.43616829{3}[source]
But it does make sense: both Musk and Trump are emotionally unstable morons with gigantic egos, their cooperation is doomed to fall apart the moment they have a difference of opinions on something (which just happened, with Musk criticizing tariffs on EU).