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arunabha[dead post] ◴[] No.43584438[source]
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1. mcv ◴[] No.43585027[source]
Isn't Trump's treasury secretary, Scott Bessent, a Soros guy?

I just learned that he apparently want to impose a new economic order on the world where every country basically becomes subservient to the US, but first they need crazy tariffs to make them all beg for access to the US market. I don't think it will work, and instead the global economy will move on without the US.

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2. supportengineer ◴[] No.43585751[source]
It's going to cause fracturing at every level. Countries will question their interdependence on each other. Then US states will reconsider their dependence on the federal government. The end result is a hyper-local world with only the minimum necessary trade between enclaves.
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3. trhway ◴[] No.43585823[source]
> the global economy will move on without the US.

I wonder if we soon hear EU (or some of them) wanting to join/associate with BRICS. The BRICS has been futilely trying to get rid of dollar, and Trump seems to have just done them a solid here.

If China, however it is hard for CCP, just tone down internal oppression a couple notches and, that is an easy part for China, guarantees to Europe non-invasion by Russia, the EU may turn East wholesale. Add to that China's hold on Africa and Iran.

Speaking about Trump's declared goal of weakening China - you don't weaken your opponent by isolating yourself from your allies and turning them into allies of your opponent, quite an opposite.

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4. trhway ◴[] No.43585862[source]
> The end result is a hyper-local world with only the minimum necessary trade between enclaves.

It has been always unclear to me how Roman Empire turned into that multitude of feudal states and microstates. And i lived through USSR collapse, and that dissolution of great central power is still hard to get a mental hold on - you live in one paradigm and somehow you find yourself living in completely different one, whatever was truth and crime yesterday, today became crime and truth, and i'm having kind of deja vu these days here :)

5. fnordpiglet ◴[] No.43586372[source]
A much more likely outcome is in the next election those who caused all the pain are denied power by those suffering the pain.
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6. ergsef ◴[] No.43586434[source]
> he apparently want to impose a new economic order on the world where every country basically becomes subservient to the US

This sounds like some kind of right-wing conspiracy theory attributing everything to George Soros for some reason.

The US dollar is the reserve currency of the world. America has been calling the shots for the entire post-WWII period. The American Empire extends across the globe collecting natural resources and cheap labour. US citizens have been reaping the benefits of this neo-imperialism. What MAGA people are advocating is basically US isolationism where the US surrenders all it's soft-power influence and becomes a sort of hermit oligarchy.

7. mcv ◴[] No.43586465[source]
Absolutely. Trump is strengthening Russia and China, and weakening the US. Also weakening the EU for now, but if the EU gets its act together, they might well come out on top.
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8. mandeepj ◴[] No.43586546{3}[source]
He's doing exactly what Russia asked him to do.
9. arcticbull ◴[] No.43586553{3}[source]
... next election? Sorry but that's no longer a foregone conclusion.
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10. fnordpiglet ◴[] No.43586625{4}[source]
In almost a year and a half.

https://www.npr.org/2016/02/15/466848438/why-president-how-t...

The president as a title was meant as a diminutive relative to the Congress. The capitol building is at the precise center of Washington DC - literally and for a reason. The Supreme Court is across the street and for many years was inside the capitol.

The White House is in the middle of no where with a direct line of sight to Thomas Jefferson looking into the presidents bedroom. These are not accidents. Next time you’re there read what is written on the walls surrounding Jefferson and the architectural decisions made make a lot of sense and should be a warning to anyone sleeping in that bedroom.

Congress ceded power over time to the executive proactively as presidents subsequent to Washington emulated his integrity.

They have the ability to remove all of the power of the president, whose role, officially, is to merely preside. All you say? Crazy. But they’re the only body that can pass amendments to the constitution.

So, we don’t need to wait for the next presidential election if we don’t choose to. It’s up to we the people to choose.

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11. mcv ◴[] No.43586692{5}[source]
That's all in theory. As long as Trump has the support from the Republicans in Congress, from the Supreme Court, from the police, and from the many loyalists he put into various offices, he can basically do whatever he likes. What's going to happen if he declares there will be no more elections for some fabricated reason? Who will actually stop him?