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rchaud ◴[] No.43581873[source]
Apple CEO Tim Cook made a personal $1 million "donation" to the Trump inauguration in January 2025:

> Cook, a proud Alabama native, believes the inauguration is a great American tradition, and is donating to the inauguration in the spirit of unity, the sources said.

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/03/tim-cook-apple-donate-1-mil...

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jedberg ◴[] No.43583474[source]
He was in a tough spot. I’m sure he doesn’t support the admin, but also he knows Apple needs tariff relief, and paying a “donation” to Trump is a good way to do that.

He basically paid $1M to try and save thousands of jobs at Apple (and of course increase Apple’s value)

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1. probably_wrong ◴[] No.43584277[source]
That poor, poor powerless company.

Apple is the 8-th largest company in the world by revenue [1]. If they wanted to oppose the admin, they would be uniquely positioned to do so. That they choose not to tells me that either they support the admin or that they choose not to. That they chose the option that shows active support for the admin has a negative impact on my ability to empathize with their CEO.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_companies_by...

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2. kube-system ◴[] No.43584584[source]
Unfortunately, it's not legal for them to take a political stance to the detriment of their shareholders.
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3. tombert ◴[] No.43584809[source]
Wait, is that true? What law is that?
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4. TehCorwiz ◴[] No.43584966{3}[source]
Result of the Dodge v Ford Supreme Court decision: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co.
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5. kube-system ◴[] No.43584982{3}[source]
It's not directly or criminally illegal. It's civilly illegal in the sense that Apple has a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders in their business decision making. In practice, there are quite broad interpretations of what might be considered "good for your shareholders", but someone's personal interests generally wouldn't qualify as that.

If, hypothetically, Cook said "fuck this administration, we don't like their politics, we're not going to work with them", their shareholders could and probably would sue them. Those shareholders could make a case that Cook was asking of his own political interests, point to other organizations that did make exemption deals, and sue for losses in their share value. The reason for this is not entirely wacky: when you borrow someone's money to do something, you can't do your own pet projects with it.

Now that, of course, doesn't mean that Cook had to donate. But Cook is businessman himself, runs Apple to make money, and doing that is his modus operandi.

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6. malcolmgreaves ◴[] No.43585125{4}[source]
> Under some interpretations, the case also affirmed that the business judgment rule that directors may exercise is expansive, leaving Ford and other businesses a wide latitude about how to run the company, if management decisions can point to any rational link to benefiting the corporation as a whole.
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7. tombert ◴[] No.43585216{4}[source]
How often is this actually enforced? Elon has been doing a lot of idiotic political stuff that has tanked Tesla's price in the last few weeks. Could someone sue him for that?
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8. kube-system ◴[] No.43585267{5}[source]
It is routine practice for shareholders to sue when their leadership makes questionable decisions. Usually if you search "shareholder lawsuit [stupid thing company leadership did]" you will find results more often than not.

In this case, it's already happening:

https://electrek.co/2025/04/02/nyc-sue-tesla-over-elon-musk-...

9. mikestew ◴[] No.43585307{3}[source]
It's most certainly not true. It's the ol' "fiduciary duty" canard. Because it's cheaper to make a product by shoving infants into a meat grinder, the company has no choice but to go buy a meat grinder and start stealing babies because they have a "fiduciary duty to shareholders".

Shareholders can sue, yes, but in the U. S. you can sue anyone for anything, and "suing" is not the same as "winning".

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10. TehCorwiz ◴[] No.43585351{5}[source]
Yes, and the Wiki article goes into detail with some more quotes about the difference between the judicial understanding and the common understanding being different. The ruling didn't invent the idea of shareholder value maximization, but it did reinforce that there are legal limits to acting against it. They acknowledged as a practical matter policing it is probably unlikely to expect except in egregious cases for the reason you cited among others.

But fundamentally, shareholder maximization is the goal stated by both common business sense and legal rulings. I personally believe that long-term optimization rather than short term is a more successful strategy. But in the short term the board could remove him for going against the feds. Shareholders could sue if it caused a drop in value or impacted global operations. Caused by I don't know, tariffs that could have been avoided with a corrupt monetary contribution.

I'd love to actually see a CEO refuse to grease the palm and them get sued for not doing something corrupt. Would be a case to follow.

The point is, as I understand it, that CEOs of publicly traded corps are not afforded the freedom required to make an ideological stand and keep their job.

11. kube-system ◴[] No.43585528{4}[source]
I was careful in how I worded my statement. Clearly, "shoving infants into a meat grinder" is to the detriment of shareholders, because shareholders will lose money if the company does that.

It is also entirely true that you cannot just do whatever you personally want with shareholder money.

The truth here is in the middle.

Apple (well, Cook) certainly did not have to donate to him. But the fact of the matter is that they will have to work with this administration to run their business over the next 4 years, and I am sure that $1m is a small investment to make Cook's life easier.

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12. yencabulator ◴[] No.43585718[source]
USA, land of the free, where bribery is legally required now?
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13. pseudalopex ◴[] No.43585848{5}[source]
> But the fact of the matter is that they will have to work with this administration to run their business over the next 4 years, and I am sure that $1m is a small investment to make Cook's life easier.

This is true. But it has nothing to do with fiduciary duty.

14. kube-system ◴[] No.43586286{3}[source]
That is neither what I said nor is it what I'm suggesting. I am saying that their practical ability to "oppose the admin" is limited.
15. hulitu ◴[] No.43592060{3}[source]
> now

Now ?